What the hell?

meno in #california • 8 days ago

I'm reading up on what's happening in California right this second and my mind is blown. I mean, these type of events are supposed to be exclusive to movies, not real life.

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There is almost no way to calculate the loss here. The numbers coming out, the death toll and monetary value are fractions of reality, and I have no doubt this is the case.

0% Under control

All indications here are that this is just going to play out all the way through. There is nothing us powerless humans can do at the moment, no amount of helping that will do much of a difference.

In other words. There's no water to fight it, and even if they had some, it would hardly put a dent in it at this point.

5% Humidity

I was talking to my wife about this important yet overlooked detail. You see, we live in a rainforest, and for us getting dehumidifiers was super important to prevent all of our electronics from growing legs and walking away.

Through my experimentations and implementations of machines to dehumidify our environment, I've discovered practical truths regarding the amount of water we need/want in the air around us all time.

Nothing under 50% humidity feels too comfortable for us, and it's where our computer room usually resides. That being said, under 30% feels like sandpaper on the skin and on the throat. I can't imagine 5%, it's just not computable to my brain.

I'm going to assume without the fear of being wrong, that it must feel for anyone who is there, fleeing or fighting, like Dante's inferno come to life.

And yet, Political football again

I learnt long ago that in the world of politics, there is no disaster that won't benefit a narrative, a political party.

And, since California is a blue state, the political pundits have made it a point to blame the Democrats for this whole thing. The big cheese himself, Elon, is broadcasting calls for arrests and resignations.

Hawaii, but bigger

Not long ago you and I watched in awe as Hawaii was being destroyed. I incorrectly assumed this would be the last time the American government would be caught with their pants down, with a feeble FEMA, but alas I was dead wrong.

Seems like these days all we do is wait for the next big disaster to show it's face while sitting on our hands and crossing our legs.

Insane, that is the only word I have right now... Literally insane.

MenO

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8 days ago in #california by meno

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steevc 8 days ago

It is very possible that human-induced climate change is making these events worse. That will have costs in the many billions, but some will say it's too expensive to change to alternative energy sources. Climate change should not be political, but some are in the pockets of the fossil fuel industry.

I see some on the right are blaming fire service recruitment being made more diverse. I guess they would call that 'woke'.

What matters is that people are losing their homes and some are dying. Calling people names is childish and not helpful. The big baby needs to be told to grow up.

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valued-customer 8 days ago

the fossil fuel industry.

Just so you know, Maurice Strong was one of the primary architects of the climate alarmism scam back in the 1970s, and one of the most powerful representatives of Rockefeller oil. The climate change alarmism narrative is a product of the fossil fuel industry.

There are no plausible mechanisms by which humanity has effected climactic change, nor any by which we might. Climate has always changed, and always will, hopefully in a range we can survive outside highly controlled environments. What we can bring to the table is that we can create highly controlled environments today, which is about all we can do about climate.

I'd be happy to engage with you regarding factual evidence on this matter further elsewhere, should you have the stones.

Regarding the fires, the abysmal management the polities relevant have undertaken for decades is the only reason these fires are hazardous and consequential to people there. Construction codes have built tinderboxes people live in, left copious fuel that makes fighting such fires basically irrelevant, and lack of development of nominal water supplies makes firefighting pointless. The slashing of firefighting budgets and donation of firefighting equipment to the Ukraine is only insult on the more fundamental injuries mismanagement has inflicted on LA.

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steevc 8 days ago

Maybe some think that the massive use of fossil fuels over the last century has little effect, but you can't deny the pollution of air, land and water that is harming people and nature. Continuing on the current path is suicidal.

I'm not a climate scientist, but it seems there is a consensus on the issues. You may say the scientists are biased, but some politicians may be more so for their own self interest. I know there will be some 'rogue' scientists who see it differently, but they need some strong evidence to back them up. These are all people with imperfections, but most of them care about what they do.

Making thing 'political' is not always productive.

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valued-customer 7 days ago

"Making thing 'political' is not always productive."

I'll start there. Inserting politics into science destroys science. The word science means knowledge, and that is ascertained by observation of evidence, not concealing it, lying about it, or censoring it. Whoever censors in a scientific debate has proved themselves wrong.

The climate change alarmism starts with policy the banksters want to impose, and has worked backwards to fabricate support for it with fraudulent research, blatant lies, censorship of scientific debate, and changing data to fit their narrative. The majority of actual climate scientists - not a few rogues - deny that CO2 has affected climate in the last few million years. CO2 is not pollution. It is the very basis for life on Earth. NO, S02, and some various other chemical species are very much pollutants and have wrought harm to ecosystems and human health (not climate) for decades, for example xenoestrogens have dropped testosterone in human males by >60% since I hit puberty, but you don't hear XR screeching about that. No one pays them to screech about that. That plummeting fertility is just what the NWO wants and that's who controls the purse strings.

And fertility is plummeting globally, an existential danger to humanity.

However, the fertilizer CO2 has risen a tiny bit in recent decades, ~200ppm. NASA says that plant productivity has increased by ~30% because of that increase. Does that sound like an extinction risk to you?

wuwt.com is a place where climate scientists actually discuss research, and I recommend you have a read at it. I don't want to further hijack @meno's blog, which is why I offered to discuss this elsewhere, and I will be very happy to because you seem eminently reasonable and I think exposure to actual research and the evidence will do to you what it did to me: change your mind to agree with the observations.

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steevc 6 days ago

There is no single problem threatening us. As I have said pollution is serious and so is the wiping out of species through agriculture and resource extraction. There are campaigns around those too. There is a big one here about water pollution. Humans have an impact that we could reduce if we wanted to. Vested interests in industry try to talk it down.

I know you want a debate, but my time is limited. I have been taking measures in various ways for decades, but I'm not living in a tent and eating moss.

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valued-customer 6 days ago

We're pretty much in agreement on these matters you specify, and I don't see any reason why we can't agree on most things, at least. Have a great day, and enjoy your moss!

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agmoore 8 days ago

No water in Richmond VA because of a snow storm. Red state.😄 Silly, silly politics
https://richmond.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/virginia-youngkin-water-crisis-richmond-snow-weather/article_21a95988-cdf3-11ef-a106-3b0a29dbbe12.html

Your blogs have become my daily tonic.

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meno 7 days ago

You know; I used to think the preppers drank too much of the paranoia juice. But these days I feel like they are probably fairing better than most of us.

Self reliance seems to be the only way around all these crazy events.

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agmoore 7 days ago

We have been putting off buying a solar generator...so expensive! But nobody can depend on services provided by others anymore. We all have to be prepared. Of course, there is never a way to be really prepared for disaster. It's an illusion that we can keep ourselves 'safe'. We can try.

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valued-customer 8 days ago

"...all we do is wait for the next big disaster to show it's face while sitting on our hands and crossing our legs."

I strongly advocate against this strategy, of being dependent for anything on anyone or anything you can avoid dependence on, but particularly against being dependent on the centralized corporatocracy because it openly intends to conquer the world.

We live in a unique time in history. Centralization is shown to be a temporary phase humanity has endured while tech advanced from the Stone age to the Space age, which has happened. Presently centralized supply lines are still operant, while decentralized means of production have advented and are rapidly developing and dispersing across the population. Until the transition to decentralization is complete and mature, when generational adoption of nominal means of production will be better realized, this present moment when cheap and plentiful motors, chips, and bulk goods are able to be incorporated into production, will gradually degrade until those kinds of products are able to be replaced with bespoke local production.

There's no time like the present.

Thanks!

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