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Hi @strangegravy. I really liked the story. Truly.

But here's our challenge. We have laid out clear rules stating that we don't allow blood and gore in the community, because so many bloody and violent stories were rolling in. We had people leaving the community. We lost a key admin. People just couldn't take it. So we tightened our rules, and made it as clear as possible what we don't allow and why. And we provide three reminders in our prompt posts about our rules, including this note directly after the prompt:

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We also provide tons of ideas for stories so people feel inspired to write about things besides severed heads, rape, murder, stabbings, etc.

That's the background. Now to your story.

Your story starts with this:

A look of horror crept over his face as a large, severed head rolled down the windscreen, bounced off the freshly polished bonnet and tumbled out into the sharp glare of the headlights. It spun sickeningly on the asphalt, the illuminated tire smoke swirling around it like some big finale of a conjurer's macabre stage show. When it finally came to rest, it’s large, bloodshot eyes were staring directly back at him.

Then a few paragraphs down, we read this:

He walked into the light and carefully picked up the head in his two hands, checking quickly for any damage. A few little scuffs and scrapes, along with a small strip of skin hanging loosely from its pale, doughy cheek.

It continues with more description of severed body parts. Sorry... if in the end it's not really a severed human head, the skin flaps of a corpse or the limbs of a dead body, it doesn't really matter since the gore has been graphically described along the way. Make sense?

I will be honest; our efforts to make sure the content in The Ink Well is safe for all ages — and even for people who have experienced true horrors, abuse, and unthinkable life traumas — has, and continues to be the most exhausting thing about this volunteer job. I keep thinking: we have explained this now. We don't need to do so again. And the very next day, a story appears in our community that involves a child being raped, a woman being brutalized... or a severed head rolling sickenenly off a car. I hope you understand why we can't keep your story in the community as is. We would be completely inconsistent with the rules we have asked the community to adhere to.

And I hope you don't leave us! Your writing is fantastic. Your powers of description are amazing. I love your talent, and would love to see more from you.

Also, you are welcome to edit those parts of your story if you like. We would be happy to unmute it if the gore isn't there.

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Hi Jayna,

Thank you for the clarification, that really helps me a lot.

In fairness to yourselves, the story WAS trying to make people think it was real, so when the reader found out it was only a costume in the end they'd be like "oh ok, that's the big reveal". It was my first attempt at a type of twist (probably not a very good one, but hey, I'm still only learning here!) 🙂 So to make the story work, I felt those parts were needed, but unfortunately I can also see how those parts would skirt close to the edge of your moderation rules.

I don't know if I'd be able to edit it enough to have it un-muted for the Inkwell and still keep the core essence of the story. I might just have to accept that this 'story baby' might grow up to be a teenage delinquent and not a respectable doctor or lawyer like hopefully some of my other work will! 😁

But I totally see where the Inkwell is coming from, I was a mod for years in various groups and I know how difficult it can be to juggle all the rules. I understand the Inkwells stance on graphic violence and that's perfectly fine.

Plus now I've learned where the step over of that line is, so it's good for me to be honest, as I love the Inkwell community and want to continue to submit stories to it.

I'm learning that I'm just enjoying writing and exploring this journey of who I am as a writer, so rather than censoring myself, or over editing to the point of losing my authentic voice, any stories going forward that I might think cross any lines I'll just keep separate from my Inkwell postings, even if they were originally inspired by an inkwell prompt. It's no biggie, hopefully I'll still have plenty of stories! 🙂

I hope this didn't cause you too much drama. 😁

Thanks again for your clarification and kind words, and thanks to @samsmith1971 and @itsostylish for being so helpful and making me feel so welcomed in this community, you know how fragile us writers can be. 😁

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I'm so glad you understand, @strangegravy. Thank you! And I think I would have made the same decision as you have, to keep the story intact.

For the record, there is a market for this kind of writing. It sells. In fact in my professional writing group, one of our members writes great horror and is actively getting published. You are welcome to check it out, by the way. (Here's a link with info.)

When people have asked me why we "censor," I explain that is not what our rules are about. In the real world of story publishing — which we emulate to whatever degree we can — every publication has writing guidelines. This achieves multiple goals. The editors can quickly weed out anything that does not suit the vision and genre of their publication as they are reviewing story manuscripts. (Trust me; editors look for any and all reasons to reject stories to manage their volume!) Also, their readers know what to expect. Those who wish to read horror find publications that publish it. Same with sci-fi, and other genres. Additionally, no one who is averse to gore, blood, or violence for whatever reason (they ar too young, they've lived through trauma, they just can't stomach it, etc.) will accidentally start reading a story that will turn their stomach, trigger PTSD or give them nightmares.

We are actually far more open to the types of stories published in our community than most professional publications. We welcome any genre, and we welcome writers of all skill levels. We just have a threshold about violence to protect our readers who can't or don't want to read it. And it is also to protect us, the admins. Without these rules (and I can't emphasize this enough), there is literally an endless stream of blood, stories of women and children being brutalized, people being strangled, stabbed... on and on.

We are here to help people write stories, learn the craft of fiction writing, and continually improve their skills. Unfortunately, for those who really wish to write bloody stuff, it dosen't fit our vision or goals for the community. But as I've also said in my many conversations about this, we are just one tiny speck in the universe of publishing opportunities. We have no desire to limit anyone's creative expression. We just ask that people read and follow our writing guidelines when publishing in The Ink Well.

Thanks for having this conversation. I'm so glad you'll continue to publish your stories in The Ink Well! I think you are very talented.

Hi @jayna

No it's perfectly fine, I wouldn't have normally published something graphic in the Inkwell, and I can only imagine the stories that people were submitting if you've had to constantly emphasise the point so much! For me, I think this time due to the
quirky nature of the idea I was hoping it would have been ok, but understand exactly where you guys were coming from. But it's all good, I still got another story for my portfolio (well, first draft at least!) finished to a deadline, and one that I enjoyed writing, exploring some new stuff.

I was worried that it wouldn't have any eyes on it at all so I'd get no feedback, which would have been disappointing, but it worked out grand in the end! 🙂

On your writing group, it definitely sounds like something I'd be interested in. I'm still learning the short story craft, as songwriting and lyrics is my background, but I've been doing smaller creative writing exercises on and off for the last few years and really enjoy it. But if my work was good enough down the road I'd love to submit short stories to publication or work towards a novel. But any guidance and feedback from a group of experienced writers would be fantastic.

Is it just say hello on the discord group, yeah?

Thanks again for the feedback and engagement, it's appreciated.

Rod

Hi @strangegravy. I agree. It worked out well in the end! And this has been a very interesting conversation!

For our writing group, we admit new members if they have the goal to publish, and are willing to commit to a monthly workshop schedule. We write one story each month, critique one another's writing, make edits to our stories based on feedback and submit a second draft. This helps us all to prepare our writing to submit to mainstream publications. If that matches your goals, please stop in and you will be greeted by the group.

Oh wow, this sounds really good, definitely something I'd be interested in. I'll introduce myself in the group then, thank you again.

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A perfect response @jayna. !PIZZA !ALIVE !LUV

Thank you, my friend! And I'm so glad you are helping to get this post curation love. That's awesome.