The Daily Meme #758!

holovision 2 months ago

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lolzbot 2 months ago

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valued-customer 2 months ago

Hive has a couple flaws. One is that it is a pure plutocracy. Another is that every user has the power to tax any and every other user restricted only by their stake. This power to tax is called a downvote.

Thanks!

antisocialist 2 months ago

Yes, for hive to excel it will require that those with (ninjamined) power voluntarily leave it on the table.
Both refraining from daily curations and from dominating the dhf and witness votes.
Is that realistic?
Maybe, maybe not, but unless it happens all we are doing is forcing the old paradigm onto the new.
For hive to lead the way into the new paradigm it requires that power be voluntarily rejected.

I suggest that a 1000mv cap on voting from the pool is a good start.
Being outgunned 1000mv to 1mv is one thing, but orbiting a 20k mv black hole is another.
Especially considering that 1/3 of all the hive is held psuedo-anonymously on exchanges.

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valued-customer 2 months ago

Limitations on the effect of stake could also be hard coded, reducing the temptation the well-staked are afflicted by. The advent of oracles and 1a1v could bring to fruition @ned's vision of digital democracy to governance of Hive yet. DV's could be mandatory for spam, scams, and plagiarism, but banned otherwise, although I couldn't code that in a lifetime. Hive could become what it is destined to be, even though it tarries a bit today.

antisocialist 2 months ago

Is it better that the population 'follows the rules' because the rules make them, or because they have respect for the rules as determined by the collective?

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valued-customer 2 months ago

Code is law. If the code permits it, it will be done. Thus Hive society is formulated, and eventuates, and we can see the results of the code implemented to date.

But, you know this.

antisocialist 2 months ago

Nothing in the code of life stops us from killing others, yet most people don't.
If you have to be forced to conform to the rules of the community around you, it is unlikely that you will ever fit in with them.

It seems better to me if the folks give up power willingly rather than have to be forced, but each has to decide for themselves.

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4 votes

valued-customer 2 months ago

You know better than most we are in an atypical interregnum between dictatorships of durance vile, and what it will take to advance again the cause of liberty, that alone enables our felicity. Even as it regards Hive, it is inevitable that systems requiring desirable behaviour strongly encourage it.

After all, people could have done everything we do on Hive with fiat, paper and pencil, and stamps.

videoaddiction 2 months ago

I think that the downvote ruins the freedom of speech on HIVE.

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5 votes

antisocialist 2 months ago

It has its place as a deterrent to low effort spam, encouraging original content, and discouraging repetitive content.
There is little persecution of speech in the hive, but there are people doing it.
We should downvote them.
That is the design of the game.

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videoaddiction 2 months ago

But it can also be used arbitrary.

antisocialist 2 months ago

Only so long as the community tolerates those doing it that way.

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dreamtales 2 months ago

Touché

feanorgu 2 months ago

Fucking legend!

ironshield 2 months ago

I don't remember the last time I ever downvoted.

antisocialist 2 months ago

I follow smooth and livinguktaiwan among others.
Smooth downvotes excessive rewards and lut moderates a community.
Both 'safe' blind downvotes, imo.
I've stopped following most of the people I did follow as they dv'ed content I wouldn't have.
These two have survived across years of my checking up on them.

Not downvoting is abdicating your duty as a responsible stakeholder.
You will have to decide for you what you want to downvote, but not downvoting is not playing the game as designed.

This discord has a disgruntled crew of mean people, you might like to follow some of them.

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ironshield 2 months ago

Not downvoting is abdicating your duty as a responsible stakeholder.

There are many responsibilities that I do not abdicate, but investing time downvoting is something I leave to others.

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4 votes