Change to @v4vapp limits and fees

brianoflondon in #hive-110369 • last month

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Max transaction lowered

Over the last few week the price of BTC has sored to new all time highs. At the same time Hive has stagnated at or below 20c. In light of this I've adjusted the maximum payment for Lightning down from 250,000 sats to 150,000 sats.

I want to remind people that this system is still in beta and is undergoing a process where by it can be decentralised. It's not meant to be a trading system, it's meant for paying real Lightning invoices in real stores and other transactional uses.

Fee

I've also increased the fee from 1.5% to 1.7%. I'm never going to recoup what I lost last month being hacked, but I need to make sure I'm not at least loosing on every transaction (which is more likely when the price of BTC jumps the way it has recently).

You can always find the up to date fees here:

https://peakd.com/hive-110369/@v4vapp/hive-to-lightning-gateway-fees

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cwow2 last month

Why not make the fees fluid depending on the BTC price to Hive? Or something like that instead of a hard cap?

brianoflondon last month

The fee is a flat 50 sats (which is pretty low deliberately not to hurt smaller transactions) with now a 1.7% charge of the value of the transaction.

cwow2 last month

Damn, that is pretty low! :D
I have used your service before, but I am just not one who does a lot of transactions xD

borsengelaber last month

I find 1.7% still ok for the service. Do you have already more concrete plans how to decentralize it?

brianoflondon last month

Yes. I'm working on the re-write to make running this service by others possible. It's also combined with shifting the functionality which I call KeepSats over onto @vsc.network which is a very important part of decentralising what I do.

borsengelaber last month

Ok. Thanks for clarifying.

rubencress last month

Thanks for the update Brian :)

ironshield last month

Paying lighting invoices VIA Hive is amazing. !BBH

woelfchen 29 days ago

Which is a better way to buy hive with bitcoin?

Without kyc exchange?

brianoflondon 29 days ago

For direct Bitcoin swaps you can use Swimpleswap:

https://simpleswap.io/customer-account/signup?referral=GMBjXNIsjL

I've used that one in the past.

woelfchen 29 days ago

Sadly, it is KYC.

So there are no really decentralized on- and off-ramps for Hive? :/

What hinders you to provide a bridge for trading?
Liquidity? Can't it be funded via Hive (DHF) itself?

I think providing a good "trading bridge" could onboard a lot of users to Hive.
All those traders looking for a good decentralized stablecoin to realize some bitcoin profits in the current run. (plus 10-20% APR ! for saving and waiting in HBD for the next bitcoin dump)

Hive would profit big from new users and new capital (BTC -> HBD) inflow.
Traders may also start blogging, documenting some of their trading path, experiences, profits and losses to earn some extra Hive, ;)

I already love how you integrate Hive into the Bitcoin ecosystem.
We should not stop here.

Thanks!

brianoflondon 28 days ago

When @vsc.network is up and running and there is a proper liquidity market things will get much more interesting.

woelfchen 28 days ago

Yeo!

I just reached out yesterday and had contact with vsc discord and asked if you guys could provide help to each other.

Looking forward! :3

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vaultec 28 days ago

We already been working together for over a year at this point!

woelfchen 24 days ago

Optimal! :D

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darkcloaks 24 days ago

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revisesociology last month

I'll certainly vote your proposal. Love this service. Do you have plans/ is it even possible to bridge the other way? From BTC straight into Hive/ HBD...?

brianoflondon 29 days ago

You can already send Lightning and get Hive. The Sales tab which acts like you're running a store does exactly that.

You can also send lightning from most lightning wallet apps direct to your hive name@v4v.app and you'll get hive. if you want HBD use name@hbd.v4v.app and to hold sats use name@sats.v4v.app.

revisesociology 29 days ago

Worked beautifully thanks, just hadn't twigged the sales app as the way to do it, fees so cheap, excellent service thanks again!

revisesociology 29 days ago

Oh OK thank you so much, I obviously need to read the instructions more carefully!

Or maybe it doesn't work with the Muun wallet which is the one I've got...? I'll give it another try later today!

brianoflondon 28 days ago

Give up on Muun. They're not really a Lightning wallet any more.

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daveks 25 days ago

I am trying to send a lightning invoice to V4V, have to use sales tab then, even though I'm not a "store"? Hmmm, I have a lightning invoice created. Goal is to send lightning into V4V and buy hive.

brianoflondon 20 days ago

To swap Lighting to Hive it is as simple as sending it to daveks@v4v.app. If your wallet doesn't understand lightning addresses, go to the sales tab, make sure you've got daveks in the Hive account box, set Hive in the currency tab and put in the amount of sats. Press the blue button.

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galberto last month

Intente usar la chivo wallet pero no me lo permitio.
Seguire intentando ojala ai SE pueda en algun momento.

brianoflondon 29 days ago

Not sure exactly what problem you're having.

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felixxx last month

regular and happy customer here.
1,7% is still good.

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mypathtofire last month

Thanks for the update Brian. Great service.

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adese 29 days ago

Thank you so much for giving us this update