What's Behind the Locked Door? How Effective Is Total Censorship?

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Both @steevc and I noticed, after both of us collected the news for our posts from yesterday, that there is a new wave of censorship going around in the world. He reported about the one in the UK while I talked about the one in Malaysia, affecting one of our witnesses. I saw something about Australia not so long ago.

There is talk about closing down Tiktok in the US, a rhetoric that has been borrowed for a while by some of our politicians too, after this platform had a role in the elections fiasco in my country.

Personally, I don't like Tiktok, don't have an account and don't intend to, and I believe it can be dangerous in many ways, from collecting data, making user profiles, to creating dangerous trends, and I'm not going into politics here, although we've seen it can be used as a weapon there. What I'd rather focus on are the challenges that I hear are made on Tiktok, especially followed by youngsters looking for belonging and approval, and which can lead to serious accidents.

The collecting of data and making user profiles happens on EVERY social media, so the only difference is WHO collects and uses them. And with the world starting to become multi-polar, that problem will become more and more of an issue based on which decisions may be made.

After all, Western social media platforms are forbidden in China. Interestingly, Tiktok doesn't target the Chinese market either, although it is a Chinese company behind it, but it is oriented to the global audience.

The Chinese have a version of Tiktok called Douyin, which is exclusively focused on the internal market. One can wonder why the different platforms, right?


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Anyway, we have entered a new world, where social media impact drives the agenda, can decide presidents and what is or isn't relevant, while the traditional news (i.e. cable news networks, news agencies, and anything else we can add in here) lost control almost completely and... to be honest, are going kind of crazy about it, instead of understanding the situation and maybe even evolving, where possible.

The approach is... let's ban what we don't understand rather than understand the paradigm shift and see how you remain relevant in the new reality.

I don't often use the Bible as a reference in my writings, but the "forbidden fruit" approach has a long history of being ineffective for humans since the original sin. You'll always find enough people who will do exactly the opposite of what they are told, others who simply disregard you as a legitimate authority, and the category I like the most... the curious ones, who want to know what is behind the locked door.

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I'm not a Tik Tok fan either, and some of the stuff is downright dangerous for kids. There is also the question of possible espionage that is behind much of the politics. Out right bans are generally ineffective, just look as prohibition of alcohol in the US.

An approach to social media and China could be if they don't allow ours why should we allow theirs? I don't find that argument a problem personally, then again I'm not a Tik Toc fan! Reciprocation of what they do to us is fair game. But it may become a problem for us if countries start banning Hive, and the witness issue in Malaysia.

Brave new world my friend...

Out right bans are generally ineffective, just look as prohibition of alcohol in the US.

I was thinking about this too as an example as I was writing my post.

An approach to social media and China could be if they don't allow ours why should we allow theirs?

Well, in the West there was that notion of freedom that was once even more respected than today. In China, at least in the communist era, societal or even economic freedom is an illusion.

Reciprocation of what they do to us is fair game.

Sometimes it's not smart to reciprocate. What would mean if China reciprocates to Trump's tariffs? And in what way would they do it?

Brave new world my friend...

Haha, it would make for a great movie script. But to live it, we'll see...

It's a very different world now. I spent a lot of my life with no form of social media. I was into things like bulletin boards before most people were online, but that was mostly a culture of geeks. Even my kids came to it relatively late, but now kids start very young. I feel for them. There are plenty of nasty people who will prey on them.

Moderation is tricky. I hear of people getting traumatised from the stuff they have to check. You have to wonder if 'AI' will take on some of that work. Companies may get forced to do it, but then Twtr cut back on it and now seems to be a cesspool.

Hive is in an interesting position as a decentralised platform. Mastodon/Fediverse is a different version of that where individuals or companies run the servers and may be expected to moderate. I have not seen too much nasty stuff here so far, but it could easily happen.

Yes, I also think kids these days may come in contact with social media way too soon to understand the pitfalls. We sometimes don't understand them either, and we've seen a lot.

AI will pose another challenge through deep fakes. But I hope other types of AIs will be able to counteract that by marking the AI-generated content appropriately.

I suppose there is a benefit of being small. Hive is not on the radar of predators nor the governments, for the time being. For the most part. But as we grow we need to see how we can deal with potential issues. We saw an example with the bot farm coming from Splinterlands.

The censorship will happen. The governments want control and I don't think they will be stopping any time soon. I do think that the sites like TikTok are bad for people overall, but it's a part of life now. The TikTok ban has been suggested for years now and it still hasn't happened. So I wonder if it will actually happen this time.