In search of the Everything App

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There is lots of talk now about building a social media everything App that can do everything you need for all social media interactions. I had my doubts about if that was even possible until I stumbled upon the Amethyst App.

Currently on Hive we have 2 mobile Apps that I use regularly. Mostly I am using the great Ecency App as it is really smooth and is great for surfing and reading. It also gives great alert notifications. You can respond to most of your Hive needs using the App.

The Hive Keychain App is also good and allows you to perform most of your Hive needs on your phone too without putting your keys into your mobile browser. Storing your keys in a browser is a bad idea.

However, nothing stands still and there is lots of development in the short form and video content area of social media happening and I think this is where the everything App idea comes from. The combination of all the existing web2/web3 apps into one goto app for everything.

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Ecency has made some great advances to the Ecency App and on the Web App we now have decks with also Ecency Waves and short form content available. There is also the possibility to add videos using 3speak now which is a fantastic integration. When this gets rolled out to the mobile App it will be pretty powerful.

Lemmy World

Currently with the turmoil in the web2 space there has been lots of noise and Reddit has been one of those affected with their centralisation and blocking users and content.

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Disgruntled users have been building a new Reddit called Lemmy World which looks quite similar to the original Reddit and doesn't seem very decentralised to me.

Nostr

The biggest web3 development seems to be happening in Nostr which is a decentralised protocol where many Dapps can be used to interact with the protocol in many ways. Here is the home of many Bitcoiners and it has seen some rapid development with dozens of really great Apps created in a short time.

Mostly they have been re-creating the Twitter short form content Dapps both as web apps and as mobile apps, but there was one mobile app called Amethyst that has really got my attention because it seems very close to the everything app that would be good to see on Hive.

At first glance the homepage looks like a twitter short form content app. This is does have and you can see all the short form content interactions called notes in a nice easy to read feed.

It also has all the functions that you would want to see such as comment replies, retweet, like and zap (the equivilant to upvote on Hive) plus the view count.

However, the App doesn't stop there, it also has integration with the Zap Stream platform so you can look at current live and previously streamed streams and watch them live on your phone in the App.

Here the quality is very good and you can also see comments and leave comments, zap and interact like just as you could if you were in the zap stream platform. This would be like if we had Vimm live streaming on Hive and would be a great addition to any app I think.

The Amethyst app has even more features that you would want from a web3 mobile app, you can see a video shorts stream. Here are just short video posts to watch similar to what you would see on youtube and instagram. I know that Ecency is planning 3speak shorts integration so this would be also great to see in the Ecency App too.

The features of the Amethyst app do not end there, there is also the possibility to message directly to users and also a group messaging option which would make the use of the awful Discord redundant.

Under the menu options you have all the usual options. What is impressive about the app is that it is very fluid and provides many different type of media interactions all in one place and on your mobile.

As it is not on the blockchain, there is no wallet function, but there is still the possibility to earn. In the notifications tab, it shows you how many comments you have made, likes received and how much you have earned for today. Here I have earned 311 satoshis.

On Nostr there is no long form content as all content is produced in notes and can be long or short form. I think that long form content is an important part of Hive and should be the center of the platform, but we should have some extra streams to view short form content, group chats like discord, videos, video shorts, instagram type posts such as we have Liketu, direct messaging and the like.

Looking at the existing trends, this seems to be the direction we are heading in and I am looking forward to seeing more development on Hive to bring us towards this goal, especially the launch of Ecency waves on mobile.

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I do get the Holy Grail of the Everything App.
But I doubt I would use it. We all want different things from Social Media. My biggie for consuming content is Twitter or more particularly Rangers Twitter, I joined Twitter in 2011 when I was living in Spain to keep up with info andgossip about Rangers.

Web3 will for me never be popular enough to have a niche like a Scottish football catered for.

I do love reading your test reviews though Steve! From games to other apps, you are our goto guy!

Thanks Ed. That sure makes sense, you need to go where the masses are. I am sure things will slowly migrate to the new tech like everything. I remember when hardly anyone had a smartphone and now it seems its standard.

Oh yes smartphones, then you could take how we listened to music! Walkmans Discmans mp3players ipods and then bang those smartphones again!

haha very true!! what comes next!

Maybe we could learn something from Nostr and implement it on HIVE? There is no ideal solution, but it's important to implement good ones...

Btw., from where those Satoshis are coming? That you said that you "earned"?

I agree, some of the good features would be good to see on Hive. I like the different feed options and think this is the way it looks like things will go.

The sats are from other users zapping my content.. it is P2P crypto payments using lightning wallet that is integrated in Nostr. There is no reward pool like on Hive.

The sats are from other users zapping my content.. it is P2P crypto payments using lightning wallet that is integrated in Nostr. There is no reward pool like on Hive.

So, it's like people are "tipping" you with tokens?

Yes it is a tipping feature basically directly from the user.

o.o this is interesting if this can be done on hive that would be awesome. idk when i saw your title i thought you were going to talk about leofinance

It would be great to see some of these features implemented on Hive. IDK about LF, I couldn't get their app to work when I tried it.

what do u mean by that? u cant login from browser?

the webapp works fine, but there is no mobile app anymore AFAIK

https://m.apkpure.com/leo-finance/com.andriojuttdev.leofinance

ya theres no mobile app. they made it compatible with browser so u can actually just use it on mobile browser did u try that?

no, as you need to put your keys directly in the browser and that isn't secure. I would then use the Keychain solution instead. But if they plan to onboard new users, they will need a mobile app.

dont they have a log in thru keychain though?

Wo nimmst du bloß die Zeit her an so vielen Orten aktiv zu sein? Das fasziniert mich immer wieder 🙂
Ich glaube nicht dass eine everything hive dapp möglich wäre, weil die einzelnen Projekte so unterschiedliche Meinungen bezüglich den "Sinn" von Hive haben.

ja, gute Frage. ich weiß auch nicht..

Aber du hast wahrscheinlich recht, eine Everything Hive Dapp wäre sehr schwerig zu bauen. Aber wir haben viel mit Ecency integriert und mal schauen..

Stimmt, Good Karma versucht immer zu integrieren. Er fasziniert mich übrigens auch, wie er das alles schafft und dabei immer freundlich und tolerant bleibt. Ein großes Vorbild.

Auf jeden Fall! Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass es nicht einfach ist!

I have never heard of all these apps you mentioned except Nostr. I use eccency on web and haven't even bothered to check the app version, I think eccency is great and the only thing that makes it difficult to notice is that peakd is just killing it.

I think PeakD have some good features too and is a good webapp to use, but mostly I am using Ecency.

The good thing is that you even get to earn points for your participation, that part is amazing really.

Yes, this is a real bonus and great for users I think.

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Thanks

I installed the 3Speak app a little bit ago with every intention of using it and actually posting some video content, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I think part of it is just the fact that I am scared. Who knows! I still think Hive is the best bang for your buck out there right now. We are probably biased though!

I have been using 3speak once per week but now I can use it directly in Ecency I am very happy. I agree 100% about Hive being the best bang for buck and we are probably biased though 😅

Very cool. I just can't bring myself to do video content. I hate the way I sound. Maybe one day though!

I am the same, I dont like to hear my own voice! lol

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I use the Ecency app too and find it dope - especially for getting notifications while I try to flourish in the ecosystem.

Really interesting read my friend.. thanks for sharing.

The Ecency App is a great way to keep up to date on Hive. Thanks for checking out the post.

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Amethyst app is really a nice update for me. I am also using these two apps which you have explained; ecency and hive key chain.
Oh yes it's really a bad idea to store keys in mobile. Even once I have lost them. That's why I made a new account.

They are really great apps for Hive and am glad the teams are continually updating them.

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Man, I have never heard any of them yet.
I read something about how elon musk's X wanted to build an everything app, just like how Wechat is operated in China. will it be a race for Web3 and Web2 to build one outside China?
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Yes it is going to be interesting to see how things develop. I know that I want to stay in the web3 space myself though.

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This is a very good post that can tell us where development is going and where the developers of Hive dapps could turn to.

Thanks! I think we don't need to re-invent the wheel with Hive Dapps.

Exactly!