No I mean that you should tag any topic regarding Ukraine of the last 8 years, as Hitler Children.
3 years ago in #hive-165469 by baah
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No I mean that you should tag any topic regarding Ukraine of the last 8 years, as Hitler Children.
Fine, so there was this internal war for the past 8 years and thousands of people were killed does this give Hitler the right to totally destroy the Ukraine and displace 44 million people ?
Fine, that is despicable, to try and insist that the war in Donbass is Fine, to try and say that the war in Donbass doesn't give the people of Donbass the right to do EVERYTHING that has been done to them, AND MORE, just as the Nazi escalated, so does the people of Donbass and all their allies, have the right to escalate it even more, so to defend themselves and DEFEAT those who wage war. You don't want war!? Then learn to ask for forgiveness and pray that peace is offered, because you, the "people of Ukraine" ain't owed ANYTHING from Donbass or their allies.
Only one ruzzia guilty at this crap in Donbass, local people who was victim of agenda at beging already see your real ugly face but can do nothing bikes no human right where is trash totalitary RuZ rule...
We know who the terrorists are. Why does the overwhelming majority of People from Donbass, and all who support Donbass from the rest of Ukraine, why do they DISPROPORTIONATELY FLEE FROM UKRAINE, TO RUSSIA? When will Odessa know peace? When will the slaughter in Kiev know peace? When will the Aidan, Azov, Donbass and others who have been documented committing heinous war crimes and atrocities, when will they be held accountable? What kind of country ALLOWS, with complete impunity, the very group which is responsible for the massacre in Odessa, to march, in celebration of the massacre, on the day of the massacre, in front of the place where they burned alive and stabbed and beat the ones who fell from the building the group set ablaze after blocking the victims in?
On May 2, in this incendiary atmosphere, a horrific event occurred in the southern city of Odessa, awakening memories of Nazi German extermination squads in Ukraine and other Soviet republics during World War II. An organized pro-Kiev mob chased protesters into a building, set it on fire and tried to block the exits. Some forty people, perhaps many more, perished in the flames or were murdered as they fled the inferno. A still unknown number of other victims were seriously injured.
Members of the infamous Right Sector, a far-right paramilitary organization ideologically aligned with the ultranationalist Svoboda party, itself a constituent part of Kiev’s coalition government, led the mob. Both are frequently characterized by knowledgeable observers as “neo-fascist” movements. (Hateful ethnic chants by the mob were audible, and swastika-like symbols were found on the scorched building.) Kiev alleged that the victims had themselves accidentally started the fire, but eyewitnesses, television footage and social media videos told the true story, as they have about subsequent atrocities.
Instead of interpreting the Odessa massacre as an imperative for restraint, Kiev intensified its “anti-terrorist operation.” Since May, the regime has sent a growing number of armored personnel carriers, tanks, artillery, helicopter gunships and warplanes to southeastern cities, among them, Slovyansk (Slavyansk in Russian), Mariupol, Krasnoarmeisk, Kramatorsk, Donetsk and Luhansk (Lugansk in Russian). When its regular military units and local police forces turned out to be less than effective, willing or loyal, Kiev hastily mobilized Right Sector and other radical nationalist militias responsible for much of the violence at Maidan into a National Guard to accompany regular detachments—partly to reinforce them, partly, it seems, to enforce Kiev’s commands. Zealous, barely trained and drawn mostly from central and western regions, Kiev’s new recruits have reportedly escalated the ethnic warfare and killing of innocent civilians. (Episodes described as “massacres” soon also occurred in Mariupol and Kramatorsk.)
Initially, the “anti-terrorist” campaign was limited primarily, though not only, to rebel checkpoints on the outskirts of cities. Since May, however, Kiev has repeatedly carried out artillery and air attacks on city centers that have struck residential buildings, shopping malls, parks, schools, kindergartens and hospitals, particularly in Slovyansk and Luhansk. More and more urban areas, neighboring towns and even villages now look and sound like war zones, with telltale rubble, destroyed and pockmarked buildings, mangled vehicles, the dead and wounded in streets, wailing mourners and crying children. Conflicting information from Kiev, local resistance leaders and Moscow make it impossible to estimate the number of dead and wounded noncombatants—certainly hundreds. The number continues to grow due also to Kiev’s blockade of cities where essential medicines, food, water, fuel and electricity are scarce, and where wages and pensions are often no longer being paid. The result is an emerging humanitarian catastrophe.
Another effect is clear. Kiev’s “anti-terrorist” tactics have created a reign of terror in the targeted cities. Panicked by shells and mortars exploding on the ground, menacing helicopters and planes flying above and fear of what may come next, families are seeking sanctuary in basements and other darkened shelters. Even The New York Times, which like the mainstream American media generally has deleted the atrocities from its coverage, described survivors in Slovyansk “as if living in the Middle Ages.” Meanwhile, an ever-growing number of refugees, disproportionately women and traumatized children, have been fleeing across the border into Russia. In late June, the UN estimated that as many as 110,000 Ukrainians had already fled to Russia and about half that many to other Ukrainian sanctuaries.
It is true, of course, that anti-Kiev rebels in these regions are increasingly well-armed (though lacking the government’s arsenal of heavy and airborne weapons), organized and aggressive, no doubt with some Russian assistance, whether officially sanctioned or not. But calling themselves “self-defense” fighters is not wrong. They did not begin the combat; their land is being invaded and assaulted by a government whose political legitimacy is arguably no greater than their own, two of their large regions having voted overwhelmingly for autonomy referenda; and, unlike actual terrorists, they have not committed acts of war outside their own communities. The French adage suggested by an American observer seems applicable: “This animal is very dangerous. If attacked, it defends itself.”
Among the crucial questions rarely discussed in the US political-media establishment: What is the role of the “neo-fascist” factor in Kiev’s “anti-terrorist” ideology and military operations? Putin’s position, at least until recently—that the entire Ukrainian government is a “neo-fascist junta”—is incorrect. Many members of the ruling coalition and its parliamentary majority are aspiring European-style democrats or moderate nationalists. This may also be true of Ukraine’s newly elected president, the oligarch Petro Poroshenko. Equally untrue, however, are claims by Kiev’s American apologists, including even some academics and liberal intellectuals, that Ukraine’s neo-fascists—or perhaps quasi-fascists—are merely agitated nationalists, “garden-variety Euro-populists,” a “distraction” or lack enough popular support to be significant.
Independent Western scholars have documented the fascist origins, contemporary ideology and declarative symbols of Svoboda and its fellow-traveling Right Sector. Both movements glorify Ukraine’s murderous Nazi collaborators in World War II as inspirational ancestors. Both, to quote Svoboda’s leader Oleh Tyahnybok, call for an ethnically pure nation purged of the “Moscow-Jewish mafia” and “other scum,” including homosexuals, feminists and political leftists. And both hailed the Odessa massacre. According to the website of Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh, it was “another bright day in our national history.” A Svoboda parliamentary deputy added, “Bravo, Odessa…. Let the Devils burn in hell.” If more evidence is needed, in December 2012, the European Parliament decried Svoboda’s “racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views [that] go against the EU’s fundamental values and principles.” In 2013, the World Jewish Congress denounced Svoboda as “neo-Nazi.” Still worse, observers agree that Right Sector is even more extremist.
Nor do electoral results tell the story. Tyahnybok and Yarosh together received less than 2 percent of the June presidential vote, but historians know that in traumatic times, when, to recall Yeats, “the center cannot hold,” small, determined movements can seize the moment, as did Lenin’s Bolsheviks and Hitler’s Nazis. Indeed, Svoboda and Right Sector already command power and influence far exceeding their popular vote. “Moderates” in the US-backed Kiev government, obliged to both movements for their violence-driven ascent to power, and perhaps for their personal safety, rewarded Svoboda and Right Sector with some five to eight (depending on shifting affiliations) top ministry positions, including ones overseeing national security, military, prosecutorial and educational affairs. Still more, according to the research of Pietro Shakarian, a remarkable young graduate student at the University of Michigan, Svoboda was given five governorships, covering about 20 percent of the country. And this does not take into account the role of Right Sector in the “anti-terrorist operation.”
You sit here and mock the victims of an 8 year war as Terrorists, as Traitors, as without merit to their own Sovereignty, or to their plight, you spew only hate, indifference and racist intolerance towards an entire people and their President, attack after attack, and you think you deserve what exactly? To be considered? To be valued? To be acknowledged? Why, you're not worth shit all!
We know who the terrorists are, and we know who want war, we know who the Racists are, and we know who stood in silence or even worse, encouraged the terrorists. Don't worry, the Russians and fellow people of Donbass don't want war, as they aren't the ones who started this, but they're the ones to finish it.
You try to push mad kremlin delusional agenda! Made for cower ugly anti humanity crimes, no one will pick at these schizophrenic fabrications!
First acknowledge the significance of what has happened, don't pretend as if Kiev has ANY legitimacy after declaring the people of Donbass terrorists and subsequently waging war on them. After the point of Declaring Independence from the Military Junta in Kiev, anything Kiev does is on them AND the rest of Ukraine. So when Russia recognized the sovereignty of the two republics of Donbass and Kiev launches an offensive against them, don't act as if that doesn't give Russia and the two Republics, RIGHT, not just to defend itself in its own territory, but to DESTROY, should they choose to, all enemies of the ones who have waged war. The fact that Russians haven't destroyed indiscriminately everything and everybody, should give you a sign that they are capable of restraint, even though, by all that is good and great, they have every right to respond to such an attack as thoroughly as they feel necessary. Think about how the West wages war, indiscriminately killing anything and anyone even slightly threatening, no infrastructure is spared. What's happening in Ukraine, is not "totally destroyed" by any means, so stop exaggerating because if they were to wage war like the Nazi did in Donbass for 8 years and still do you'll have no internet, no water, nothing, as they bombed Infrastructure on purpose like the water treatment plant.