"The Trending" - What's Changed?...

acesontop in #hive-167922 • 2 years ago

Do you know who Ned Scott is? Well, if you are older than two on this blockchain then there are high chances you know him or have at least heard of this name. I almost forgot about him, but I saw a tweet from @acidyo today having a screenshot which was showing that he's blocked on Twitter by Ned.

The same goes for @dalz too... I guess they put the truth in front of his eyes after "he sold us" back in 2020 that got them the block from Ned on Twitter, but you know what instantly pops into my mind whenever I think of Ned Scott? My early days on Steemit and how flawed the trending page was back then.

As mentioned in many of my blog posts from that era I see such a page as a business card for the platform. Someone new to Hive has a high chance of getting in touch with the community for the first time through the posts featured on the trending page. Hence...

I said multiple times the Steemit trending page was flawed and I stand by that statement because I remember my days as a newbie. I also remember that I was checking what posts were featured on that page every day and as you probably know already, back in those days, there were literally the same individuals having posts featured over there over and over again.

With occasional "surprise entries" from accounts that had enough dough to pay the required bid bots so that their content would be pushed on the trending page. A lot of the new accounts that we have now on Hive probably don't know that most of the renowned curators that are currently "upvoting their posts for free" are actually ex-bid bots.

If you don't know what a bid bot was, well it's pretty simple. Someone who felt like needing some exposure for his account, or his content, and couldn't get it organically could send some liquid STEEM or SBD to such an account(bid bot) and these would upvote that person's post with almost the exact vote value of what the user sent in liquid tokens to the bid bot account.

Now we're getting fatty upvotes from accounts like @appreciator, @haejin, @ranchorelaxo, @ocd, and many other fatty whales basically for free and oftentimes based on no type of circle jerking habits... I had literally zero posts on the trending page in the Steemit era, but since Hive got born and curation turned more organically I can say I've had my fair share of such posts.

I'm not the usual face you will see on that page, but been there, and done that...

The current trending page that we have is quite proper for a business card the way I see it, cuz every time my eyes peek at the posts featured over there I can clearly see diversity. I will have to "blame that" on organic curation coming from ex-bid bots' accounts. I've noticed however that every community somehow has its curators, except for @appreciator and @haejin who seem to upvote posts randomly.

Communities have been a game changer for Hive since they went out live because the content that is put on the blockchain for a couple of years already is somehow sorted... Back then it was all so random...

Anyway, I don't want to deviate from the topic of this post which is the trending page, thus if I will have to draw a conclusion to it, I'd say that the current trending on Hive is as "close to reality" as it can and almost everyone has his/her fair share to get there.

What do you think?

Thanks for your attention,
Adrian

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2 years ago in #hive-167922 by acesontop

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young-kedar 2 years ago

Great to hear that the 'playing field' has become more even and favorable to all users. It was strictly business back then.

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acesontop 2 years ago

That's the way I see it

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nonameslefttouse 2 years ago

Yes. It has improved tremendously. There was a time when no matter what you did and how well you did it, you knew before even hitting the post button it would be impossible to hit one of those top slots organically. And as selling votes became more and more prevalent, even a small amount of organic support was nearly impossible to come by. The entire concept was a farce. They'd sell this idea buying votes would in turn offer visibility, but there was no one around to look because the fake "trending" content turned eyes away from the higher slots, and the people with eyes were selling their votes, meaning they were getting paid to not even be here and look. They were being paid to look away. When I think back to those years, I'm still blown away by how stupid and irresponsible the entire clusterfuck of a shit-show truly was.

Noticed over the years though it's quite common in crypto for folks to fuck the future of their products if it means profit now. Being able to recover, then thrive, combined with the motivation to get even better; that's rare and says a lot about this community.

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acesontop 2 years ago

I personally know a couple of cases of such users who "paid their way up" and both ended up as dead accounts even before Hive got born. It's the same as with steroids(fake pump). When you stop taking them you will not only loose these massive gains but fall even deeper in terms of progress from where you started climbing.

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nonameslefttouse 2 years ago

Yeah. Some of those folks would buy their, "Best Bowler in the World" trophy, yet not even be able to pick up a ball. The kind of guys that'll lean up on your Corvette while you're in the store so they can take a selfie and show everyone how rich and successful they are.

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acesontop 2 years ago

Yep... Their fade away was written in the stars from the beginning.

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nonameslefttouse 2 years ago

Indeed.

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acesontop 2 years ago

Why don't you blog anymore?

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nonameslefttouse 2 years ago

My head spins when I try to answer that question. Hundreds of thoughts flood my mind but none of them really amount to a solid reason. I've had trouble reigniting that flame for a couple years now.

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piensocrates 2 years ago

I remember the old days of Steemit and also Ned Scott and what you mention about curation bots. Certainly, it was very difficult to get to the trending page on Steemit in those days. Now with HIVE it's a bit easier to achieve such a feat.

Although if I'm being completely honest with you, I feel like I haven't been making progress on my HIVE account lately. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like I'm not moving forward no matter how hard I try. I'm not talking about being voted for every day, but lately I haven't achieved anything through my posts?

There seems to be something I'm doing wrong, and I can't figure out what it is. Anyway, getting back on topic, this makes it much more difficult for me to rank any of my posts on the HIVE trending page lately; and I would say that almost as much as in the Steemit era.

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mistakili 2 years ago

I think there was a plan to use the trending page as a global space for advertising, so a market could buy a bunch of tokens and use them to pay for AD space. To be candid, it doesn’t sound like a bad idea especially if those fees for AD were being burnt or sent to the DAO but instead it was the bid bot owners that were making all the money and cashing out which made it a very bad unsustainable idea. Being done right, is that method such a bad one? If the trending page was used as a global ad space where people had to buy and burn Hive to show on?

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foxkoit 2 years ago

This old steem times 😆🍺🍺🍺... I was get block also from Ned ... when I was ask "what Fuck did you sell Ned ? ) 😆😆 I think he did not like F . 🥴😆

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acesontop 2 years ago

Good question. Fuck him!!! :))

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foxkoit 2 years ago

I think it was Mr. Sun who was ask this :)))

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acesontop 2 years ago

Sun didn't even knew what he was buying. He thought he bought the whole chain :))

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foxkoit 2 years ago

He was buy just steem up - no chain no name :))) ... steem from private person , and still then and later he realized that if he had bought it on the market he would have got it twice as cheap :)) Funny world . But normal when you have to lot money and not know what to do :))

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ranjith98 2 years ago

What you said is 💯 % correct. At initial stages i was too experienced the same on steemit. Due to inconsistency pushed to create a new account and starting a new journey here 😌

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