Does Technical Analysis apply to small markets?

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Stand aside. I'm stretching out of my comfort zone here to discuss Technical Analysis (TA). I'll probably reveal my ignorance early on.



The reason I'm even trying to write about TA is because a discussion by @demotruk and @tobetada in the Hive General price and trade channel got me to thinking. When think --> write.

What's TA?

First off, it's not what you heard in the boys' locker room.

Secondly, if you're unfamiliar with TA, here's my one sentence definition:

Technical Analysis is a method of objectively analyzing market charts, data, and order books in hopes of projecting price trends.

Third, if you're familiar with TA, you're probably saying to yourself:

Yep, he revealed his ignorance early on.

I'm a skeptic

Let's get it out there up front...I'm skeptical. My gut tells me that no one can figure out markets. People are too fickle, markets do what markets do. Much of the time, it seems to me, the market and prices do exactly counter what makes sense. Every time I've started to think I've gotten something figured out in the market, I've been humbled.

No doubt, there are people who are better than others. However, I chalk up their successes to discipline. They likely have a plan, a rational non-get-rich-quick plan, and are disciplined enough to stubbornly stick to it.

Disclaimer done, I still...

Respect TA

I still have a respect for TA. There was actually a time when I was intrigued, spent a small, iota of a bit of effort trying to learn, then reverted back to my skepticism.

The reason I still respect TA is that it attempts to do what seems to me the near-impossible: to objectively weed through the nonsense.

Side story (I'll circle back to TA, promise):
When I was in school, teachers talked about "Quantitative Research" and "Qualitative Research." The quantitative was scientific experiments and correlations which yield hard-to-dispute numbers. The qualitative was case studies, naturalistic observations, interviews, and open-ended surveys. It was asking somebody their ideas, or observing for yourself and jotting notes, then sitting back and saying, "Hmm, what does this mean?" To me, the subjectivity in this was vomit on paper. What I conclude is very possibly entirely different from that person over there's conclusion. And, who's to say who's right?

Naturally, I skewed toward the quantitative. However, when mandated to do one qualitative project, I held my nose and chose to do a Grounded Theory (GT) study.

GT is qualitative trying to be quantitative. It was like a little boy trying to be like his father, I liked that. Here's the way GT works: you gather up a ton of data. Those data are usually transcribed verbal interviews, or actual writings -- it's something other people have said or written.

Then, you analyze it. (Sounds pretty subjective, I know.) But, there's somewhat of a standardized, systematic pattern to the analysis. First in your analysis, you create major categories or "codes." You just establish big "buckets", so to speak, with labels on them for each of the topics the people are talking about. Then, you create sub-categories within each code/bucket. When you've exhausted any and all codes or sub-codes, you start drawing code-bubbles and linking things on a huge flow chart diagram. Whenever your data for Sub-code A makes mention of something in your Code C bucket, you draw a line linking those bubbles. A spider web results with bubbles as hubs.

Sounds like nodes in a decentralized blockchain! 😀

This technique sounds like a mess, it kind of is, but it's interesting in that patterns begin to emerge. Similar to a word cloud that reflects word frequency in a text, things begin to literally appear visually. These are the important things. And, their linkages appear. Any linchpin emerges also. Often, things rise to the surface that we'd previously not seen in the pile of data alone. From there, we can perhaps suckle out some inferences...learn stuff.

The point with GR is that we went from a heap of information with little or no order, a mess, applied a somewhat-objective procedure, and then emerged with a somewhat-objective conclusion. It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing.

This is why I respect TA. "The market" is a whirling mess of millions or billions of people, their whims, befuddled up in a blizzard of money. That's a difficult thing to make sense of. Technical Analysis tries. Like Grounded Theory, it's not perfect, but I respect the effort.

The question

The question in the title asks if TA applies to smaller markets, like cryptocurrencies. It seems to me that smaller markets would be very much less predictable than, say, a Tesla on the NASDAQ stock market. Smaller markets are much, much more volatile when a big player, a whale, gets involved. In my thinking, even the best and most accurate of Technical Analysis would be thrown awry if a whale suddenly bought up half the order book. Or, the other way, if that whale suddenly unloaded a large volume.

To answer my own question...

Yes, TA does apply to smaller markets, because it can still be used with them. The attempt to move from subjective-to-objective persists and the tools are the same. A lumberjack chops a sapling with the same axe that he chops a sequoia. However, it must be understood that smaller markets have a much higher chance of a large, very large, market swing.



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I can see why you would be skeptical, as markets can be very unpredictable. However, I agree that TA can be a valuable tool for understanding market trends and making informed trading decisions.

I think your analogy to Grounded Theory is a good one. TA is also a way of trying to make sense of a large amount of data in a systematic and objective way. Of course, no method is perfect, and TA is not always accurate. However, I think it can be a helpful tool for traders who are looking to minimize risk and maximize profits.

Does Technical Analysis apply to small markets?

My Rule-of-Thumb when it comes to TA or analyzing any data is "The measure must be measurable".

When it comes to people speculating on what may or may not happen in the future it becomes imperative that you have good tools and practices to ensure you are tracking objective elements to guide you with the subjective or unknown elements that influences a perceived possibility.

There are always some sort of program trading that exist in most markets and here on Hive with the huge amount of bot trading it becomes more important to sort the impact of bots versus gut feeling and hype.

As a minimum I look at spot prices, moving averages, bot trading patterns and rich list holder activities.

TA is the part that helps me evaluate and measure response to the emotional activities of traders. Like you mentioned in regards to creating buckets. I have many years experience in TA as per stock trading but I have only been on Hive since mid March this year. My experiences, tools, technique, process, etc still applies so my initial review of Hive tokens indicated that 70+ percent of the measure is not measurable. TA is to compliment Fundamental Analysis (FA). FA should not be overlooked or completely ignored because of hype.

So TA may or may not apply to some token. Why we must look at other elements to determine a more realistic valuation today and for the future. This applies to the #PEPT and #ePay tokens I have created and introduced to traders, investors, etc. When I say PEPT is trading below book value; it is based on a fundamental measure. To some that may just mean I am biased so token value may get ignored because it is not based on the usual tokenomics of a Hive implementation.

Thanks for the share. I #Luv TA #lol

Awesome reply, thank you. My quick thoughts upon reading this:

  1. I wanted to mention bots in my post, then forgot. My point was going to be that bot trading, to me, tends to negate the efficacy of Technical Analysis. My chipmunk brain thinking: "If TA works, why isn't there a bot out there killing it in the markets? Not nibbling arbitrage, but I mean killing it? Since TA points to objective analysis, and since bots are 100% objective, can consider far more data and far faster than us, why is it not there?" (Maybe it is there, I'm just missing it.)

  2. I'm confused by something because it seems contradictory: you write, "The measure must be measurable" and then "70+ percent of the measure is not measurable." I'm guessing you're saying, "this is the point, it's immeasurable," but what confuses me is this: if 70% is immeasurable, how can you measure the other 30%. And I guess my other question is, "How can you measure 70% of something that can't be measured?" I'm sure I'm missing something here.

  3. I also meant to include Fundamentals and forgot! I've a tendency to write, then get bored with it and want to publish and move on. Then I leave stuff out. Thanks for bringing that up, 100% agree that FA matters too.

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The measure must be measurable

Change measure to measured. Sorry about that.

For example,

When I got here, my first scan of Hive token charts, the default TA chart is Japanese Candlestick. It is a very valuable measure but all measures have pros and cons. With a good understanding of Candlestick patterns, one can quickly scan if the token picture is worth your time to evaluate. Based on actual trading data. Not so much a spot price but price and direction and momentum. As I gather more knowledge from trading patterns of bots, I have to adjust and/or filter patterns that may obscure the real picture. So you need a combination of TA charts. And the types of charts you use should support your overall objective for trading. So that means the initial scan allows you to put some tokens in the bucket labelled, the measured is not "trend"-able. This could be 50% or more of the total number of listed tokens. I suppose I could have said "trend"-able !lol The point is making sure we understand the limitations and errors in whatever analysis we perform. For example, if the majority of trading on Hive is overly reflective of a candlestick pattern, I would venture to guess a success rate of 50% just based on the limitation of candlesticks alone.

so my initial review of Hive tokens indicated that 70+ percent of the measure is not measurable.

Change the word measure to measured. Sorry about that. What I means is based on my analysis, I could easily filter out the majority of tokens and thus focus on the say 30% that are more likely to support my need. That being, a token that is expected to grow regardless of the emotional responses of a market psychology, a token that is responsive to the deliverables behind the token value and generally tokens that have a higher predictable trading pattern.

As per bot trading, I am all ears to learn about them now that I can see their predictability. I assume the creators/implementers have several configurable properties that drive a desired outcome.

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