The Liquidity Debacle Strikes Again

in #hive-1679229 months ago

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XMR flash crash

Monero has been crab walking for over a year now in the $130-$170 range, but yesterday it did something that I really thought it wouldn't. It flash crashed 40% from $165 to $100 in a quite epic tumble. The narrative for this panic seems to be the impending Binance delisting, but this made very little sense to me in the heat of the moment.

We've known about these rumors for weeks and even months. Binance has been captured by regulators. CZ has fallen. They basically have to do whatever America wants. Of course they were going to delist XMR. Why? Because it works is why. Regulators absolutely hate it.

The vibe on social media was extremely disappointing.

Especially the Bitcoiners. Everyone chimes in to kick a fren when they're down rather than realize that this is bad for everyone. The whole, "glad it wasn't me," vibe is honestly kind of embarrassing, but obviously not as bad as the Nelson from the Simpsons, "HaHa!"

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So I put my money where my mouth was...

I've been waiting for an entry point on XMR for quite some time. Privacy coins are a very longshot play in the current climate because the current climate does not value (or even respect) privacy. They will continue to underperform until they acquire deep liquidity pools that can't be shut down. When that happens: they will moon. But there's really no telling when that will happen because creating liquidity for an asset that can't be tracked or confirmed tends to be wildly difficult.

So I went to buy like 1 or 2 coins for a couple hundred bucks and totally fat-fingered it on accident and ended up getting 8. Rather than roll it back I just let it ride because my goal was to get 10 XMR into cold storage eventually. I couldn't help but feel like I was going to get cut by the falling knife and it would dip down right after buying, as is often the case.

Imagine my surprise today when I was up 20% in 12 hours. Of course in retrospect this move was very easy to justify because the crash just didn't make that much sense. All the big players knew it was probably going to happen and price didn't flinch, and then on confirmation of delisting it tanks 40% instantly? Was definitely one of those rare buying opportunities that are very easy to miss in crypto even though they seem completely obvious in hindsight.

In fact I believe the entire market is in that exact situation right now. ETF inflows keep gobbling up Bitcoin supply with no end in sight. Halving event and FED pivot could stack themselves on top of that over the next year. I'm thinking that this will be looked at as a point in history in which buying and holding was the painfully obvious move, and yet lots of people still seem to be selling or even shorting the market. Strange times.

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Monero's problem is our problem

Hive has this exact same liquidity issue. HBD only has volume on the internal market. Hive has been cut off from a lot of users due to regulations. We are over here floundering a bit as we try to get our footing, just like Monero.

Lucky for us I think we are surprisingly in a much better position than Monero even though our community is smaller and far less known. We're basically in a position where all we have to do is extend our liquidity to BTC and we're good. Lightning Network adoption helps us, as we have protocols that allow for instant conversions to the Lightning Network. Wrapped BTC on the VSC chain could be quite the boon for creating a decentralized derivative that can be traded around for zero fee. Assuming that code is solid and there are no hacks, we may be approaching the light at the end of the tunnel.

Introverted vs Extroverted networks.

There are huge advantages to being an extroverted network. You get all the liquidity and all the network effect. Hive and XMR are pretty introverted networks, but there are some advantages with that as well. For starters: it's much harder to exploit an introverted network because it's not like bad-actor EVM devs can hop over here and clean house. Now that I think about it: we had firsthand experience with this in the wLEO hack. The ETH got drained from the liquidity pool but the hacker didn't try to steal any of the assets on HiveEngine. They probably didn't even know it existed.

Conclusion

Celebrating another token's demise is beyond toxic (unless it's Steem amirite). We are all in this together, and the falsely perceived competition pales only in comparison to the blatant tribalism and othering that we humans so love to employ. Losing access to another key liquidity pool for Monero is not a win for anyone but the regulators. If anything, think of XMR as a shield for your favorite token. If privacy coins are doing well then our real enemies won't have time to mess with the smaller projects; they'll have their hands full.

The ability to branch out and operate outside of previously defined boundaries is a key function of interoperability and liquidity. These delisting rampages are a very clear signal that we need to invest our time and effort into creating pools that can't be shut down on a whim. Privacy and commerce are basic human rights. Don't let anyone tell you different.

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Yeah, the tribalism side of crypto is super frustrating.

I agree it's a good time to buy and hold some monero for a future time when the ish hits the fan

Where do you even get Monero these days? I want some but I don’t know the process to get it lol

I bought mine on MXC (MEXC)
Somehow it doesn't have KYC and has leverage and lists Hive and XMR.
But yeah your question points out perfectly that buying this asset is extremely difficult, just like Hive.

I have to agree, Privacy is right up there ready to become a huge issue at some point and it is good there are options like Monero out there. Stacking a few privacy coins on the dips and holding for the long term could pay off. The NGU club are in bed with BlackRock now so don't care about privacy and one Crypto YouTuber said they would never buy them as the number won't go up enough for them.

Yeah exactly and then when the banks adopt XMR to commit crimes those exact same people will be like, "Well it was obvious that number go up," and will buy in late.

Hive should get a pool on Maya Protocol. (THORChain fork). It is small, it would likely be open... and it has deep RUNE liquidity which means HIVE would be able to direct trade with any THORChain or Maya asset (maya has KUJI and is about to add ADA that are not on TC).

Monero will get listed on one of these Defi protocols... but it is a tricky one due to the limitations that really good privacy puts on actually keeping track of the pool.

While the crash didn't make sense, it was very predictable. As soon a the news officially hit about Binance I knew it was going to start dropping. People are so silly sometimes. Nice move on the 8 XMR. I don't think you will be too sad you fat fingered that one!

Greetings, it's a pleasure to say hello friend @edicted , because yes I totally agree with your narrative and I think that Binance will continue to be persecuted by the regulatory entities, on this occasion it was #monero, let's hope that ecosystems are not affected anymore since look with what great power they can knock down the marking in matter of hours.

Greetings from Venezuela

"These delisting rampages are a very clear signal that we need to invest our time and effort into creating pools that can't be shut down on a whim."

Nothing is more true. Without secure comms we cannot transact. It is plainly obvious that regulatory action is just the first step. The next step will be the elimination of access to the network by the owners of the network, just as speech against tyranny was banned prior to the bank accounts of the speakers being seized in Canada. Youtool and Twatter kicked speakers they didn't want speaking off their platforms, and then those that formed their own platforms like Stormfront and Kiwifarms are being denied the web by Cloudflare. The IRL legacy financial system isn't limited to one vector of action, but unlimited mechanisms by which it can exert control. Multiple layers of dependency underlie the utility of crypto, and enabling privacy coins or speech they don't want to exist to use their infrastructure isn't reasonable to expect from that ilk.

Thanks!