Is 20% APR On $HBD Savings Sustainable? How Does It Work?

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I wrote a Twitter thread in response to the latest interaction between Andrew Quinn & the Hive community members.

AFAIK, @queenstarr mentioned $HBD & $HIVE under one of Andrew's tweets.

Things took a U-turn when Andrew called "20% APR" a scam. 😮

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If you tell me about getting 20% APR for staking an algorithmic stablecoin on the chain that has fast (3s) & feeless transactions, I wouldn't believe it too.

Does that make it a scam? Not necessarily.

Let's focus on what $HBD is & how does it work?

What Is HBD?

Hive Backed Dollars (HBD) is a stablecoin that is native to the Hive blockchain and pegged to USD.

1 $HBD is supposed to be 1 $USD.

It uses a complex array of algorithms and safety tools to maintain its peg & lose it by design to avoid a death spiral.

How Does HBD Work?

Hive BC has two native currencies - HIVE & HBD.

$HIVE being the primary is used for a variety of purposes, including:

  • paying transaction fees,
  • incentivizing content creators & node operators (witnesses)
  • participating in decentralized governance.

$HBD on the other hand is the debt to the blockchain with collateral being $HIVE.

As a stablecoin, it supports the sophisticated, borderless economy of the Hive network.

HBD Printing

HBD is printed in 4 ways:

  1. Author rewards: When a user creates a post or comment on Hive, they can potentially earn rewards in the form of $HIVE & $HBD. The amt. of rewards earned depends on several factors, including the # of upvotes (& their weight) received from other users & the hive's price.

  2. Conversions: Blockchain has an internal mechanism to convert $HIVE into $HBD by using $HIVE as collateral. Similar to MakerDAO and $DAI. It happens in 3.5 days & a median price is used for conversion.

  3. Interest: You get 20% APR for staking $HBD into your Hive Wallet with a 3-day unlocking period. Since staking is done on chain, you always hold the keys to your funds. This is an added inflation to the existing ones. The top 20 Hive Witnesses chosen by decentralized stake-based voting, can set this percentage and they can change in case the circulating supply of HBD increases unexpectedly. It can be set to ZERO as well.

  4. DHF Payouts: DHF is a Decentralized Hive Fund, a DAO owned by the Hive community. Funds are consumed based on decentralized voting on proposals that helps in the development of the Hive Network. The funds paid by DHF are in $HBD.

HBD Safety Tools

Now the question arises, is conversion alone enough to control inflation and the peg of $HBD?

Not always, so there are different safety nets employed by the community to avoid LUNAsco like event:

  1. HBD Stabilizer: An automated trading bot that trades HBD to create a tighter peg. If HBD's price is inflated, bot buys more HBD to increase supply. If HBD's price is deflated, bot sells more HBD to decrease supply.
  2. Haircut Rule: HBD is designed to lose its peg when the debt limit is reached. That limit is 30% rn. This means if HBD's market cap reaches 30% of Hive's market cap, haircut kicks in:
    • Blockchain stops producing HBD
    • Author rewards paid only in HIVE
    • HIVE to HBD conversions get disabled
    • HBD interest & the DHF payouts are always in the stakeholders' control.

HBD loses its peg and blockchain doesn't guarantee $1. As more users start to exit their HBD position near the debt limit, its supply gets reduced putting upward pressure on the price.

Check the live status of the health of HBD here: https://hive.ausbit.dev/hbd

Is 20% APR On HBD Savings Sustainable?

First of all, the 20% APR is not fixed and it can be changed at the discretion of community-voted witnesses. Inflation by this interest rate is only a small percentage. The biggest contributor to HBD supply is HIVE to HBD conversions. Inflating the HBD supply by 100x will have a substantial effect on Hive's price on the upward side because investors will have to convert from HIVE into HBD to stake in their wallets.

Hence there is no point in discussing the percentage of APR. If it becomes unsustainable, stakeholders have the power and mechanisms in place to react & fix the problem. Eventually, to scale the network in the future, we need more HBD in circulation. So there is a lot of room to grow for now.

At the time of writing this thread:

  • We have been enjoying 20% APR for more than 1 year now
  • More than 1M HBD has been paid out as interest yet the debt ratio is only ~ 5%
  • HBD didn't lose its peg in the past three years

After forking from Steem blockchain, Hive has greatly improved HBD & HIVE economics. In fact, HBD is the only truly decentralized stablecoin out there that works. It has always performed the way it was designed to perform.

Summary

  1. Is 20% APR sustainable? Yes, for now, and maybe for years to come. We have to wait and watch and probably do more debates on this topic.

  2. Is $HBD perfect? No. But it is being improved with each iteration.

  3. Is it a scam? No. Hive is open source. You can always verify the claims and do your own research/calculations.

List of References

  1. Haircut Rule: https://leofinance.io/@dalz/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-hbd-haircut-rule-and-the-latest-updates-or-the-biggest-risk-for-the-hbd-price

  2. HBD interest rate sustainability: https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@dalz/exploring-the-sustainability-of-the-hbd-interest-rate-in-the-hive-ecosystem-or-realized-and-projected-inflation-from-hbd

  3. Everything about HBD: https://leofinance.io/@crypto-guides/what-are-hive-backed-dollars-hbd

  4. HBD, scam or not: https://leofinance.io/@taskmaster4450/hbd-a-scam-most-people-do-not-understand-this-at-all

Special thanks to @dalz, @forexbrokr & @taskmaster4450 for sharing the info about HBD and how it works. Everything I have learned about HBD is through their blogs.

And Mega thanks to the Hive community for being the best in all of Web3.

LFG!

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Thank you for sharing this informative post. I believe the APR will be sustainable for 2-5 years, with time it will be adjusted. Let just enjoy as the early adopters.

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Yes. You never know if this opportunity will come again 😬

I agree that it is sustainable for now but it might not be in the future. However, the witnesses will be tracking that and I just think that there isn't enough HBD out there right now.

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Yes, we might be fine for 2 yrs, 5 yrs, or maybe a decade. As and when the situation arises, we can act accordingly.

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At some point it becomes unsustainable no matter what everyone else is trying to tell me lol. The APR would have to be adjusted.

Oh yes BF. You are absolutely right.

Let's enjoy ourselves while we can. xD

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I think HBD has the right mechanics in order not to go crazy like other stablecoins. Thanks for sharing the HBD Health Status link (https://hive.ausbit.dev/hbd), a good site to bookmark 😉

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Thank you very much for an informative post with valuable links.

I have been doing some reading to better understand the valuation of HIVE & HBD and many posting focus on defending a future value without giving much background on what determines the current value.

In your statement...

First of all, the 20% APR is not fixed and it can be changed at the discretion of community-voted witnesses.

Is it possible that the witnesses make a decision that is based on the impact on their own holdings versus the will of the voters? I am always concerned about a system that is designed with good intention to protect its underlying value and purpose but that protection may become deficient because of a few wealthy and influential players working for their own interest and not the overall system. Hope that makes sense. !LOLZ

I still need more time to think about the impact of DHF payouts and holdings.

Thanks again for the value added posting.

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This is a great post. If I could purchase it as an NFT, I'd do it. Very informative, especially to anyone new to Hive.

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Okay, so 10 SWAP.HIVE. That's not bad, but I only have 7.xxx SWAP.HIVE. Now I have to figure out how to get 3 more. Where can I see the NFT once I purchase it?

LMAO. xD No pressure on buying it Allen.

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Just log in with Keychain with your account and visit collections tab.

All right. I'm kind of new at collecting NFTs. Been practicing at Mirror and Cent Pages. I didn't know about NFT Showroom. :-)

It's quite similar to Opensea & Mirror. But here the transactions are feeless, unlike Ethereum.

I'll look into it, for sure.

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