$500 Billion Will Be Poured into a Massive AI Project in the United States

doombot75 4 days ago

We Europeans certainly look to be on the back foot, struggle to see how the UK can keep up with the investment planned in other parts of the world, but we are assured that we will be one of the AI superpowers!
!BBH

gadrian 4 days ago

Yeah, big money are thrown into the AI game. Everyone who is pushing on it, is trying to get a little edge compared to competition, because that little edge may end up being decisive at some point.

we are assured that we will be one of the AI superpowers!

More than 2 poles of AI power is better. But it won't be easy to catch the giants.

jfang003 4 days ago

I saw his announcement about it and I wonder what will happen. It sounds like there is a serious push towards the advancement of AI and its applications in the world. I wonder what Elon's primary goal is. It might just be space as you said.

gadrian 4 days ago

It sounds like there is a serious push towards the advancement of AI and its applications in the world.

I think it's a race. And it is only a race because it can be a weapon, and no super power or mega corporation wants the other(s) to have the upper hand. If it were only a technology to benefit humanity, they wouldn't care much, even if they'd say they would.

I wonder what Elon's primary goal is. It might just be space as you said.

I think it is, because it's the one going the slowest too (compared to his desire to colonize Mars), and he is not getting younger.

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sunlit7 4 days ago

That's funny compared to what Elon had to say about the joint venture which he isn't (or claims) part of. Elon said the money isn't there and displayed a picture of a pipe and a baggie with a white substance in it relative to that. His claim is those people don't have that kind of money. Which part of me wants to say if he really is involved is why they'd call it Stargate, the other side of me says they called it that because it's like a pizzagate and the rockets to nowhere that Trump describes them as. Because literally, your right, it's about the weapons the likes the world have never seen before (a Trump descriptive), and how Elon can tell people to f themselves in the face and he can do incomprehensible things to them they can't even imagine. I don't trust Elon and the later half is more likely the truth but you can't be part of the so called government efficiency office to bring down the cost of running the government if you are putting billions into weapons, oh, space exploration, sorry. So he distances himself from that. I'd take a guess that this new External Revenue Office will have a lot of secrecy behind it and that the tax tariffs are going to end up paying these billions that Elon says these companies don't have. Softbank, according to Elon comes no where near even having the 100 billion they've committed, which Softbank said was a 30 billion commitment in response. Somewhere in all that is where the "gate" part is going to come in. I am sure Trump will be long gone before that discovery and will find some way to be protected by "immunity".
Anyway, an interesting part also of that discussion involved the talk by Larry of imagine if we could use AI to discover cancers early, as pieces of those cancers can be found in people's blood before they develop the cancer, and AI helps us to provide a personalized vaccine to each individuals cancers, we could cure cancer with AI technologies. Close enough to what he said without his every word without looking it up, but it isn't the first time those words have been spoken. Tal Zak's Ted Talk was near identical to Larry's description when it came to the development of mRNA vaccines, except Ted focused on "since everybody's immune system is different, we have to develop a vaccine for each individual", though Utube scrubbed that video from the net, it wasn't before I got his words spoken written down in an op I did on it:
https://hive.blog/deepdives/@sunlit7/the-importance-of-knowing-your-immune-system-before-a-covid-shot-a-simplistic-overview
To me they wouldn't be beyond running another scam to try justifying the ability of something, whether mRNA or AI, that the body can be reprogrammed like a computer to rid the body of illness and viruses.

gadrian 3 days ago

I don't think Musk is part of Stargate. He and Sam Altman used to be friends but now seem to be at each other's throats (mainly due to the AI competition). I don't hang out on X much, but today I logged in to listen to a space recording, and there it was in my face a retweet of Elon's of something Sam Altman said in 2021 about Trump, from where it was clear he was in the other political camp (in fact I believe he still is, by convictions, but business is business).

I don't know about the money. It's their business. If they lied about it, I guess the truth will soon come out.

Yeah, we will almost certainly be talking about the weaponization of the space race. I don't even want to imagine how rough this race will be and how many things will be kept as top secret.

You have a point. You can't have a space race (or whatever that turns out to be) and cut government spending at the same time.

I also remarked in the talk Larry Ellison gave, how that elusive cancer vaccine would be delivered via mRNA..., if that rings any bells. Foul me once, shame on you! Foul me twice, shame on me!

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sunlit7 2 days ago

I don't think Musk is part of Stargate. He and Sam Altman used to be friends but now seem to be at each other's throats
A vital component to all this that you have to keep in mind is this whole thing only works/worked by distancing themselves from one another, the greatest example of that was the whole world was against Trump before they were with Trump. One of the descriptions given in Michael Moore's Trumpland was they'll see the (I'd have to look up the order which was given to be exact but will give an example of it, you want the direct quote it's in my post on Giving Them What They Want) elites hate Trump, the globalist hate Trump, corporate America hates Trump, the media hates Trump who loved them before they hated him. So this whole thing was configured on these love hate relationships. Peter Thiel also had a falling out with Musk at one time, actually if you look at Musk history, it wasn't uncommon for him to had falling outs, but the truth known now, Thiel was responsible for Trump and Vance's rise, Zuckerburg for his fall, and Musk for his rise again, and all three of them have been in some form of a relationship or another with one another over the years. The distancing, as I mentioned, in this regard, is Musk can't be seen on both sides the aisle, expanding spending while trying to reduce spending. It could, as you say, another reason for it, I am just emphasizing to be aware of the pattern(s) involved here when calculating and doing your own deductions on issues. They are extremely crafty individuals.

gadrian 2 days ago

I've learned quite a few new things about Musk these days. I won't put it beyond him and others that they stage certain public fights or disagreements, while behind closed doors they plot how to run the world.

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josediccus 4 days ago

A lot of people are writing about Trump because a whole lot is changing in just a few days of him being in office, so yeah, I think there's nothing wrong with writing about him.

gadrian 4 days ago

He certainly produces lots of news. The question is how many of what he starts now will be followed through. Because he went in so many directions, it seems almost impossible to tackle many of them in 4 years.

josediccus 4 days ago

Being that he's a controversial man and now the POTUS, I want to believe that a lot of erratic things are going to happen with him and the US, we'll just have to see how it unfolds

gadrian 4 days ago

He's certainly less boring than Biden. Not sure if that's a good thing. Although Biden was probably one of if not the worse president the US had. Surely the worse I've seen.

josediccus 3 days ago

But a lot of people seems to think Trump will be worse. I belong to a subreddit of people with a chronic illness on Reddit and they think that Trump is making terrible decisions

gadrian 2 days ago

Hard to say. If we take only his tariffs for example. Economy is a wild beast. You can't be sure what effects that will have and if indeed that will bring a lot more money to the US or if it reduces the speed of the economy world wide, including in the US (maybe less), by disrupting the flow of goods in the the world economy. We will see. He certainly has the balls to try something that disrupts the normal way things are done, and this may be a positive in the end, even if at first, it might create or accentuate problems, especially outside the US.