The Ongoing Nickel Saga: Time to Hoard Nickels?

beststart 3 years ago

Great post @ironshield. Great data and interesting thoughts to ponder.

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ironshield 3 years ago

Thank you!

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generikat 3 years ago

I love nerdy math! Especially nerdy economic math! The spike on that nickel chart reminds me of cryptoworld when a coin pumps, that's crazy! This does make me happy about my penchant over the years to save rather than spend coins, yay! Interesting times for sure.

Oh, and speaking of all things nerdy, I came here in a roundabout way from Listnerds, awesome article!

ironshield 3 years ago

Math and I have a funny relationship: I like it when it helps me understand something, I despise it when it's pointless. Thanks for visiting from listnerds!!!! Getting a bunch of dv's on my mails, I need to do better or no listnerd tokens for me!

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generikat 3 years ago

Okay, now I am curious about the pointless math comment, I mean, I thought that was how people who got some of those more interesting grants made a living😁

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ironshield 3 years ago

Some math is a form of magic, it takes imaginary information and makes it seem real and practical. It's pointless, because it's complicated and never ends and useless... And those grants perpetuate a lot of pointless math. Interesting, but pointless.

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jfang003 3 years ago

I recall something similar happening in the past about copper or something like that. So I think I would avoid buying nickel as it tends to be way too bulky. Do you think it's just a supply chain issue and would it be solved if technology improved mining?

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ironshield 3 years ago

Do you think it's just a supply chain issue and would it be solved if technology improved mining?

It's tricky to say, it's been suggested that because of the action in Ukraine, there's been a sudden surge of demand for stainless steel and the supply of nickel (a critical component) is very low. Nickel is abundent, but it will take years to implement technology to improve mining and supply. Unless the price drastically drops as soon as trading resumes, high nickel prices might be the new normal.

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rcaine 3 years ago

Still looks like as good of a deal as yesterday. I would be afraid I missed the up spike. I will watch for now. Thanks for the info

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ironshield 3 years ago

This has happened before, on a smaller scale, May of 2007. I suspect trading will be suspended until the trades become normalized and it will appear as a sudden plummet in value. Market manipulation is very common. My guess is that "war-time" emergency something-or-other will be used to manipulate the price back down, but it may take weeks. We are not allowed a free market... only a "stable" market.

In the meantime... how much are people paying for their nickel supply?

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rcaine 3 years ago

Third time in less than 24 hours.

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ironshield 3 years ago

Third time what? Do you have a source link?

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thisismylife 3 years ago

That's fun stuff to know. I wonder if it would be useful to start hoarding them quickly here haha. But I bet those that are selling them are well aware of this price jump so never mind :)

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ironshield 3 years ago

it would be useful to start hoarding them quickly

Some banks don't even offer coins anymore, I wonder if nickels are about to disappear from circulation?

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benthomaswwd 3 years ago

All metals will go up in value i think with inflation the way it is and the fact that a government can block your internet access, physical precious metals are making more sense these days.

Also i think i don't know for sure but it could be possible you need a lot of metal for war.

Just saying

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ironshield 3 years ago

Thank you for your comment! Even with blockchain, we're seeing there are some steps the government can make that will make electronic trading dificult.

physical precious metals are making more sense these days

Sort of like gasoline/petrol, get it while we can afford it!

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dagger212 3 years ago

This stuff is always fascinating. I've been hoarding coins for years now. I never spend any of them. Of course it's not like I'm getting much every day. Maybe a couple dollars a week in change. That doesn't add up very fast. It's interesting to see that the "most valuable" coins are actually the ones with the least face value; pennies and nickels.

Out of curiosity, how realistic is it to actually melt down and separate metals for their base metal value? It would seem like it might be "fun", but unless you are doing it on a large scale, I would think it would probably cost more to set it up than it's worth.

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ironshield 3 years ago

It's interesting to see that the "most valuable" coins are actually the ones with the least face value; pennies and nickels.

Good observation, I noticed that too. Last I checked, you can purchase copper pennies on ebay for about 0.02 each. Maybe the price has gone up.

how realistic is it to actually melt down and separate metals for their base metal value?

People have done this for years, although destruction and resale of coin metals is highly "frowned upon" by governments when/if they ever find out about it. Frowned upon as in $10,000 fine and or imprisonment. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2725597&page=1 So don't, under any circumstances, be found melting pennies or nickels.

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amirtheawesome1 3 years ago

Wish I was notified much earlier lol!

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chapelle 3 years ago

I have to check my old coins collection!
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rzc24-nftbbg 3 years ago

Been busy in crypto space that I lost tracking the market price of my two favorite local nickel companies: Nickel Asia Corporation and Global Ferronickel Holdings, Inc. Many traders use the price action of top nickel companies in the US market as trading indicator the following day. I just noticed that after a two-day rally and a healthy retracement, it seems that another run is about to take place.

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ironshield 3 years ago

I can't help but wonder if this is the first sign of an inflationary issue. Commodities always "float" on top of weakening money, so these prices spike first. Also, the prices of many commodities are artificially suppressed, but if the mechanisms fail, we may see real market value reveal itself.

rzc24-nftbbg 3 years ago

It could be. If in crypto space, the diamond hands are appreciated, I think in commodities, especially the precious metals like gold and silver, similar stronger hands are needed. Benefitted for some time since 2015 trading stocks in this sector. Once I see long-term convincing trends, perhaps that's the time I would revisit my watch list.

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nutritree 3 years ago

Nice post. I have been collecting nickel nickels for years. The time to hoard them began in 2015 here in the US corptocracy. Chears to many years.

ironshield 3 years ago

Good move! Every "nickel" contains 1.25 grams of pure NICKEL!
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cve3 3 years ago

Thanks again for keeping us updated & informed, with your reporting, Ironshield - @ironshield. Have you checked out, the current Zinc, US Cent, on Coinflation? Another interesting fact, on Coinflation, the metal content, value, of a current, US Nickel vs US Quarter, would be equal, if the Nickel...

ironshield 3 years ago

A $2.00 nickel roll from the bank contains $3.44 worth of metal!

The melt value for a $0.05 nickel is the same melt value of a $1.00 USD coin. So messed up.

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cve3 3 years ago

Wow, yes, unbelievable, Ironshield - @ironshield. I have sourced Coinflation, for decades, and never noticed, that, even better analogy, of the current dollar coin. Great update.

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rpren 3 years ago

Markets are emotional. And during stressful times such as this, they can become even more irrational. The price of nickel may just be a sign of that.

But shutting a market is never, ever the answer!

One of the things I have learnt in my time in the markets, "the solution for higher prices is higher prices".

Higher prices allow the creative human mind to look for profitable solutions. In this case finding ways of replacing nickel with something equally suitable and cheaper.

This time will be no different.

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