Why is LEODEX Amazing? The end of the honeypot.

in #hive-1679228 months ago

Why do bank robbers rob banks? Because that's where the money is.

Why do hackers hack bridges? Because thats where the native assets are.

When Khal @khaleelkazi announced the LEODEX he was excited and he stated that he had learned from all his previous mistakes creating projects bridging from Hive to other blockchains like Ethereum, Binance Smart Chain and Polygon.

And quite frankly I didn't get it. I trust Khal and know he is imparting knowledge and alpha on me, but sometimes I don't understand what he says, when he first says it.

I need to listen to the words, think about what they mean, and then do some more research and finally use the thing he has created, and then I appreciate what he is saying.

So when he announced the new revised LEODEX , and said that we would be able to trade Hive directly for Bitcoin, I wasn't sure how he was going to do this, and how he was going to avoid the mistakes of the past. He said many things and I needed to put all these ideas together in my head to figure it all out.

Bridge Hacks, wrap hacks, banks, honeypots and not attracting hackers and scammers.

  • The basic premise of cryptocurrency, your assets , in your wallet, protected by your private keys. The inherent theoretic value of swaps, wallet to wallet, peer to peer transfers, means your crypto stays in your wallet, until you swap it for other native assets and those assets transfer to your wallets.

  • This is also the basic reason why wraps and bridges are so dangerous. Assets from one blockchain are swapped for assets which represent their value on another blockchain. And the original native assets are held on a bridge until the investors swaps back for them.

  • Example you swap Bitcoin for wrapped Bitcoin on Ethereum and the swap service holds your Bitcoin in a wallet, frequently connected to the bridge via smart contracts, and this big wallet full of Bitcoin, which is just sitting there while your Bitcoin is invested on Ethereum, making you money. This wallet full of Bitcoin is the Honeypot which attracts hackers, just like bank robbers, are attracted to banks.

  • Now while the people who wrap Bitcoin have a very good safety record, many other wrapping services and bridges don;t have a similar impressive record. In the last two years over 400 million dollars was stolen from bridges and our own Leofinance experiences bridge hacks when we first bridged to Ethereum and once again when we bridged HBD to BInance Smart Chain.

  • Many smart people have tried to make bridges safe, but honeypots, just like banks, have infinite allure to those who want to hack them. The larger the reward the more sophisticated and smarter the hackers you attract.

  • The solution is to construct structures which allow people's crypto to stay in their wallets, protected by their keys as long as possible. And this is the value proposition for Thorchain, your assets remain in your wallet, and instead of wraps their is a common token, like Rune on Thorswap, abd Cacao token on Cacaoswap. These tokens eliminate the Honeypot and allow cross blockchain swaps on open exchanges called DEXS. This is what LEODEX is a cryptocurrency exchange which allows your crypto to stay safely in your wallet until the exchange takes place. So while LEODEX currently uses a wrapped token on arbitrum as a wrapped intermediary, it is designed to be a momentary wrap, you go to LEODEX input your Hive for Bitcoin, the wraps and swaps take place in the background and your Hive doesn't spend days, weeks or months sitting in a hack susceptible wallet, acting as a honeypot attracting bright, resourceful hackers. It is there for moments during the trade, and then new native assets are safely in your wallet, protected by your private keys.

  • Example you trade Hive for Bitcoin. Your Hive is traded for Leo, then Leo traded for Arbitrum leo, then Arbitrum Leo traded for Cacao, then Cacao traded for Bitcoin, and then the Bitcoin is deposited in your Bitcoin wallet. So your Hive stayed in your wallet, protected by your keys, until it was time to trade it and this takes a few minutes and then you have native Bitcoin safely deposited into your bitcoin wallet, protected by your keys.

  • Khal has learned from all the projects he built over the last five years from Steemleo to Leofinance, wleo, bleo, pleo, bHBD, bHive, Cubfinance and POlyCub. The practice of holding native assets while people use wrapped tokens for long termed term trades on another blockchain is a honey pot creating, hacker atracting model fraught with risk. People rob banks because that's where the money is, and People hack bridges because that's where the native assets are.

  • But using wrapped tokens as intermediaries in native asset swaps doesn't create a honey pot, as the wraps are only used for intermediaries in the trade and then the investor gets native assets again, safe in their wallet.
    No honeypot, no hacks.

Thats the beauty of LEODEX and that's the amazing thing about being able to trade Hive for Bitcoin in a single click.

  • Many will look at the Arbetrum Leo token and think, are we really getting away from wrapped tokens? This looks like a wrapped token.
  • Well now you have the explanation, from my perspective and understanding why this time it's different.
  • And the beauty of this, is that arbetrum may be an intermediary step for us. If Hive becomes a big enough customer, Maya may decide to create the rails or infrastructure to list Hive directly on Cacaoswap, and then we won't need an arbitrum token, we will be able to list Hive-cacao directly on Cacaoswap.
  • I think this is exciting, amazing and big steps forward. I hope you agree.
    I also hope you come join us providing liquidity on cacaoswap, earn some trading fees and help build our presence on on Maya to increase awareness of our blockchain Hive and our greater community on Hive. We are over a million accounts here, we just need to act together to leverage our size for all our benefit.

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I still don't understand. We still need the LEO:CACAO in the middle to convert from HIVE to BTC. If people join the LEO:CACAO pool, then this pool is a honeypot :)

Good question.
I wrote another post expanding upon this very question. :)
You are absolutely right, Arbitrum Leo is a Wrapped token , it represents the value of Leo on Arbitrum.
The big difference is for Leodex.io trades, it lives only minutes.

Let me explan, how I understand it.
The honeypot exists when you swap for a wrapped token and use it for the investment, like the Cacao-LEO pool, you are right, somewhere there's a honeypot of LEO waiting for you to swap back your Arbitrum Leo to regular Leo.
The difference here is in the Leo to Bitcoin Swap, or Hive to Bitcoin swap. in those examples you are swapping Leo for Bitcoin, because you want Bitcoin, not to get your Leo invested in Maya.
So in that instance, for you the arbitrum Leo is not the goal, and it exists only to facilitate you getting Bitcoin. So you don't care about that Honeypot and in theory that Honeypot doesn't have to exist, because the arbitrum Leo can be burned at the competion of the swap.

The second point, is that the goal is to generate enough business that Maya creates the infrastructure to trade Hive directly for Bitcoin because the Hive COmmunity is a bug enough customer to make that cost acceptible.
Arbitrum is an atrractive enough ecosystem, that Maya has decided to build the infrastructure for direct trade, or direct wallet swaps between arbitrum wallets and Maya wallets.
The current limitations of wallet to wallet swaps for cross blockchain swaps is the creation of this swap infrastructure.
The infrastructure is a cost.
So in order for us to get Hive into the game, so to speak, is to piggyback on the arbitrum infrastructure.
ultimately we hope Maya builds the Hive swap infrastructure and then we will truly be free of Honey pots.

Did you try it out for yourself? How high was the fee in a Hive-BTC swap?

Yes.
I tried three times to swap Hive for Bitcoin, and tried 50$ worth of Hive, 100$ worth of Hive and 200$ worth of Hive, and each time the proposed fee in Bitcoin was $41.00.
It was seemingly a fixed fee.
But I know that fees for Bitcoin transactions are high, but in my personal experience, Bitcoin transaction fees and Ethereum transaction fees always vary based on time of day and day of week.
So I may have picked a bad/expensive time... I am honestly not sure.

its good utility for hive O.O lets go

Exactly, the utility can be huge, now lets see if HIvers use it!

o.o yes lets see if hivers use it lets goooo

This is fantastic!

I am enjoying utilizing a concept made reality.
Years ago, I read and wrote about atomic swaps as a safer way to do peer to peer transfers and in the future defi...

In later years I read and wrote about Blocktrades and then Thorchain .

I have been aware of the potential and value of this niche for a while, and unfortunately I left the mining and tech side of the crypto world to join Steemit and took the DPOS pill...

But now I am looking at a roadmap where the dream can become reality and it is exciting.

Honestly not just buttering you up, this is a real example of protecting your crypto with your keys and dong rapid cheap peer to peer transfers, and that is really exciting.

well that was helpful for my understanding, thanks dude!

Your welcome, glad I could help.

The end of the Honeypot.

I love your analogy to the Honeypot. It makes it easier for me to understand it. It perfectly explains why hackers attack bridges, and why eliminating swaps helps protect investors.
Thank you.

Thanks. I am glad you liked it.

I appreciate the fact that your posts are always so positive, even in the face of adversity.
This process Hive to Bitcoin, is indeed the simplest it has been in years, and it should be celebrated.
The process from Leo to Cacaoswap trading pair is a bit complicated, but for a Big Fan of Inleo like you and me, it is not insurmountable.
Thank you for explaining how you did it, this will help those of us who start this route after you.
You have saved me time, money and frustration.
I appreciate it.

Thanks, I think it is always better to appreciate the good things.

I had to laugh when I first read tis because it was a funny intro, but then you got serious and dropoped some alpha on us. True statements, hacks are to honeypots, as burgleries are to mansions.

Thanks

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I am sorry if my comments seemed harsh. I am trying to help you. I owe you the truth.