Everything is Culture - Untangled Knots #5.1

wittywheat 3 years ago

There are way too many ethnic groups in Indonesia. If they appear in history tests, I'll probably fail 😂 I am however very interested in studying Bugis people. Bugis people believe that there are 5 genders; male, female, transgender male, transgender female, and intersex.

Completely unrelated but I love Tex-Mex and Creole cuisines!😄

wolfofnostreet 3 years ago

Ohh...were these adopted from Western culture or it's always been that way?

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wittywheat 3 years ago

It's always been that way until the arrival of Islam. Of course, in the past, the term transgender was loosely based on cross-dressing and maybe castration for men. Cosmetic surgery was non-existent then. Bugis people used to believe in shamanism and intersex people are usually appointed as Shamans due to their uniqueness.

selfhelp4trolls 3 years ago

I am super interested in shamanism because it seems to be the closest thing to my own spirituality, although I am not connected to any shamanistic tradition. This is so cool.

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wittywheat 3 years ago

When you asked about what we can learn from Bugis people and 5 genders, I think it's to respect gender preference for every human being instead of forcing anyone to follow societal conformity. Twenty to even ten years ago, intersex people were often forced to either become only a male, or a female. Maybe some wanted to be respected for being both. I'm unfamiliar with shamanism so can't comment for the time being.

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selfhelp4trolls 3 years ago

I am always interested in these unique tribes, I wonder if we can learn anything useful about this topic from them. I also know Indonesia has many polygamists. Actually these concepts are not so foreign to my friends and acquaintances, although I'm sure there it's quite different in a modern/traditional city/country or religious/non-religious setting.

Who marries/sleeps with who? Is sexuality also fluid there? What role does everyone play in the family? So many questions 😆

Actually I may have a polyamorous friend join sometime soon. It’s more modern for sure but also interesting.

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wittywheat 3 years ago

Wow! An interesting friend you have! 😄

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ai-summaries 8 months ago

Here is a detailed summary article about the key topics discussed in this episode:

Exploring Cultural Diversity and Adaptation

As a young Indonesian growing up in a family that encouraged cultural exploration, Chemi has been exposed to a wide range of customs and perspectives from a very early age. From traveling with her family as a child and being encouraged to talk to strangers, to later discovering new cultures online and through international friendships, Chemi has developed a deep fascination with understanding the nuances of different ways of life.

Navigating Cultural Differences in Bali

One of the places Chemi has spent significant time is the island of Bali, which she describes as a "melting pot" where people from all over the world come together. While Chemi loves the diversity and vibrancy of Bali, she has also observed some challenges in the way local Balinese interact with foreigners. She notes that there can be a sense of prioritizing tourists over locals, with businesses sometimes charging higher prices or providing better service to foreign customers. This has led Chemi to question where the tax revenue from tourism is being directed, as the infrastructure in Bali does not seem to be improving at the same pace.

Adapting to Cultural Norms

Chemi has also had to navigate differences in cultural norms, such as the expectations around tipping and splitting the bill when dining out. Coming from an Indonesian background where the host typically pays for the entire group, Chemi was surprised to encounter the Western practice of each person paying their own share. She has had to adjust to these nuances, sometimes feeling uncomfortable when her Indonesian friends insist on splitting the bill down to the last cent.

Embracing Diversity and Individuality

Chemi's upbringing, which encouraged her to be open-minded and explore different perspectives, has also led to some challenges in forming close friendships. She has found that her willingness to discuss topics like sexuality openly, or her refusal to conform to traditional gender roles, has sometimes alienated her from her peers. However, Chemi remains committed to embracing her individuality and seeking out like-minded people who are accepting of her diverse experiences and perspectives.

The Influence of Colonialism on Cuisine

Chemi's exploration of cultural differences has also led her to appreciate the historical influences that shape the cuisines of different regions. She has observed how the food in Indonesia has been impacted by the country's colonial past, with dishes and ingredients reflecting the presence of Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, British, and American influences. This has given Chemi a deeper understanding of how cultures adapt and blend over time, creating unique culinary traditions.

Overall, Chemi's journey of navigating cultural diversity has been a formative experience that has shaped her worldview and her desire to continue learning about and embracing the richness of different ways of life. Her openness to exploring the nuances of cultural differences, and her willingness to challenge her own assumptions, serve as an inspiring example of how to approach the complexities of a globalized world.

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jonsnow1983 3 years ago

Wouuu, awesome interview mate. I thought Macchiata was shy but she is really outgoing and very composed so as you. In Venezuela we use to tip regardless there's a service fee to pay in some restaurants, there are some that don't but the majority does. It's good to see I'm not the only one who start smooth talking and ending up having conversations with strangers lol. Knowing about different cultures certainly open poeple's minds. Interesting exchange. Hive on.

macchiata 3 years ago

😄hmmm honestly I am pretty shy not sure if I came out as outgoing in that interview. Maybe when I am comfortable, I can be that!

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selfhelp4trolls 3 years ago

I've heard in Venezuela people talk to strangers very easily. I think it's like that anywhere with a more village lifestyle (even cities with more village atmosphere, the terrain of Caracas is so beautiful!). I've lived in cities 80% of the time so whenever I go to those kinds of places, I shoot the shit with everyone for a few days just to get the smell of the city off myself! I try to bring it back to the city too but it's not always easy.

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ryivhnn 3 years ago

Perhaps she's one of those people that "needs no introduction"? XD

selfhelp4trolls 3 years ago

Lol well not at hive! And hive probably make sup 80% of people watching but I hope to change that. Even if it means I have to make every single real life friend a guest to get them curious about it 😆

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macchiata 3 years ago

hmmm the problem is that I have no idea how to introduce myself :D

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starstrings01 3 years ago

would have been great seeing @macchiata without the mask… since she’s looking good while on it btw.

wondering where all the money go that’s meant for those infrastructure? they go to the pocket of the politicians.

some Christians don’t eat pork here.

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@macchiata which part of programming do you plan on going into

macchiata 3 years ago

😄 hahaha maybe one day I'll not use mask ? I was at cafe when recording that. Anyway, I am currently learning Ruby and Ruby on rails.

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jonsnow1983 3 years ago

I concur.

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selfhelp4trolls 3 years ago

Jewish people also don't eat pork, I didn't know there were Christian's who don't eat it.

I don't know about there specifically but money always seems to go to either the politicians or the companies who control them 😑

I saw some YouTubers using the mask as an excuse to never show their face 😆 I don't think she will do that but it's up to her 🙃🙃🙃

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wolfofnostreet 3 years ago

In Nigeria, the birthday host pays for everyone. But recently, I have noticed that younger people throw parties and they let people know if they're paying for themselves or not. I rather go to a party where everything is paid for already though.

For regular outings, sometimes we split the bill, sometimes one person covers and on the next outing the other person pays.

Cultures are similar but also largely different here.

I really like Mac's upbringing of being able to explore on her own and it's evident in her lifestyle. I can relate to what she says about her online friend's culture where people are expected to choose a particular path right from when they're young. It's the same for almost all in Nigeria. I only got into the mindset of 'life is what you make it' some years ago.

Phew! This was a fun conversation...looking forward to learning more about her culture in a subsequent episode.

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selfhelp4trolls 3 years ago

Part two will be up soon! Actually she drops some big surprises, we've been friends for 5 years and along with Vincent and Javier, I’ve talked to her more than almost anyone. I still learned a bunch about her through this!

I love her curiosity.

My parents tried to set me on a path when I was in elementary school. They always said I had freedom to choose but I couldn’t actually feel that because their disappointment or worry really hit me hard sometimes. Then when I was 21 and started to work I veered off that path and at 26 when I left it behind to travel I started over completely with everything about the way I approach life.

Sometimes I feel like I’m 9 years old with a few extra decades of experience 😆

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samostically 3 years ago

Wow! This is lovely. I watched every bit. My two favourites talking. Couldn't ask for more

Nobody pays for you lol. I think it's the same here. But @macchiata is beautiful even with the mask, I don't know how they let her pay.

Okay, I was laughing when she talked about how people eat with their hands in Asia and you interrupted - "Not where I am"

I think I agree with her. There are alot of similarities with the western culture. The differences are small. I have friends from asia and conversations are easier with all of them.

@selfhelp4trolls, Americans is always going to be different to you. I think maybe coz you've been away for a while.

Ooo it ended right on me. I hope she comes back too. (Without the mask maybe) :)

This was fun watching.. @selfhelp4trolls you are doing a great job. I've missed the previous episodes, but I would check them.

"The details are important SOMETIMES" -Mac

Do Indonesians love swimming? I thought you would say that you relate more with Americans love for sports. I see you talk about sports too.

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macchiata 3 years ago

Nobody pays for you lol. I think it's the same here. But @macchiata is beautiful even with the mask, I don't know how they let her pay.

Hmmm interesting! 🤣 wouldn't it be nice if somebody pays you?

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