in #hive4 days ago

This is why financialization is the enemy of socialization. Principles matter. There are not >10k new users of Hive. It is plainly obvious from @arcange's data. AI has enabled simulating users and this is being done to Hive.

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Social media has become the largest financial sector in global markets in the last decade or so. This demonstrates that society, which is people, drives prosperity. Simulating society simulates prosperity. If you want to live in simulated prosperity, simulate society.

If you want people to prosper, prevent simulated socialization. Hive has embraced automating social interactions, and has utterly failed to prosper, to capture actual human users that have driven social interactions to dominate global financial markets. Society is comprised of people, and allowing social interactions to be simulated by automating them utterly destroys society - destroys people.

If Hive does not limit it's use to human beings, Hive will be destroyed because of it. Hive may be able to be a simulation of society running bots, but what use is that to people? Insofar as Hive advances automation of social interactions, it devalues Hive to people. That is what Leo is doing, because Leo can profit financially by pretending to be multiple people when it is actually running bots to simulate people. Eventually what will come of that is an absence of human people on Hive, and a bunch of simulations interacting, which will erase the value of Hive tokens and cause people to use actual social media where people interact with one another.

Infesting Hive with AI and bots is destroying Hive. It can be prevented, but it can only be prevented by enabling people to prosper, and DV's concentrate stake which prevents people from prospering and enables whales to control governance, which is what is happening to Hive today. As long as stake continues to be concentrated and governance controlled by whales, Hive will continue to decline in utility to people.

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it is actually everywhere, AI bots comments in youtube etc..
it looks like there is no more real comments and everyone is dead.

Hive should not be like that. No one wants to talk to bots.

of course, but everyone uses bots and when they have something to lose or to win...the goal is what matters...seen in Marky's exemple in his post.

In fact the vast majority of people do not use bots, but interact themselves with people using these platforms - or at least intend to interact with actual people. I am very confident that every interaction they have undertaken with bots instead of people angers them.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/03/business/meta-ai-accounts-instagram-facebook/index.html

Marky is a big fan of bots.

I am utterly opposed to bots.

While we are diametrically opposed on that issue, that does not mean we cannot agree on other matters. While Marky isn't opposed to bots at all, he is opposed to Leo claiming to have onboarded people they have not, regardless if they have onboarded bots or not.

Edit: There is a principle at issue and most people simply are blithely unaware of it at all. People are far more valuable than money. Mike Tyson stated that Don King (his manager/promoter) would sell his momma for a dollar. There are people that are incapable of considering other people as human beings like themselves. Psychopaths do not have fully functional brains, and do not have a conscience, or see others as anything but potential means of benefiting themselves.

The vast majority of people cannot fail to understand their mother is more important than any sum of money. The same is true of our children, our wives, husbands, and even our neighbors that we may not even like very much. Some people are broken enough to treat people poorly for profit. When this happens because of environmental circumstances, such people become sociopaths.

Healthy people have many values that exceed the worth of mere money.

There's one very key thing that this "LEO Uses AI" narrative is missing... Proof.

You guys are citing people on Hive who use INLEO and may use summarizers to add data and saying that its the INLEO team. None of the people you guys are citing are on the INLEO team.

It's funny that people buy into a narrative just because someone like Marky says its true. Doing 10 minutes of research will show you that he's just attributing something to LEO to shape his own narrative.

  1. Marky is inactive on Hive development. Does nothing but complain
  2. Marky hates INLEO and has continued to slander us over the years

That's the real narrative.

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No. The truth is that you didn't bring in any new users at all. When you do you'll add value to the Hive platform. Until you do, you'll simply mine Hive for ROI, and that's all you're really interested in.

The thousands of AI comments you pay Taskie to produce aren't just without value to Hive, they reduce the value of Hive to people. Society is people, and AI isn't people.

Bring in people, or continue to devalue Hive. It's that simple.