Opinion of Israelis on the war. "Marching into the darkness to fight monsters" and winning

apshamilton in #israel • 9 months ago

I've written a number of posts that express my opinion on the Gaza war and some might think my positions are extreme or do not represent the view of many Israelis.

This is not the case.
My views, including that no aid should be provided to Gaza during wartime, and that there are no real civilians in Gaza are completely mainstream in Israeli society. These views are based on the absolute facts on the ground as experienced by hundreds of thousands of reservists from all parts of Israeli society.

Israel is unified like never before.

If you want to understand what most Israelis now think check this article regarding a survey of Israeli opinion in the left-leaning Globes business newspaper website.

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-most-israelis-want-rafah-operation-despite-us-survey-1001473877

Key take outs:

82% want the IDF to conquer Rafah despite US opposition
81% think the IDF does enough or too much to protect Gazan "civilians" - 19% say the IDF is doing too much because there are no real civilians in Gaza. This is my position.
66% think the Israel should not allow aid into Gaza until hostages are released, of which 22% say no aid during wartime (again this is my position).
Only 21% think Israel should take President Biden's views into account.
81% want the war to continue.

If you want to understand the reality of Gaza and the perspective of the vast majority of Israelis on the Gaza War then watch this interview:

Hundreds of thousands of Israeli citizen soldiers like Naftali Hazony are "marching into the darkness to fight monsters" and winning.

Israelis are unified, absolutely capable of and utterly determined to wipe out the evil ideology that led to Oct 7 and change the Middle East and the world (by force where necessary) to achieve this.

We are no longer prepared to sit defensively and live with terrorism.

We are going on the offensive, not just tactically in Gaza, but strategically over the long term.

The level of commitment, skill of our soldiers, the capabilities of our military and the support and unity of the society for the justice of this war against the most evil of enemies is at a level never before seen in human history.

Nothing, including weak kneed backtracking, interference and virtue signalling by supposed allies like Canada, Australia, the Biden Administration or much of the EU, is going to stop Israel defeating Evil Incarnate.

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9 months ago in #israel by apshamilton

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ligayagardener 9 months ago

you sick fuck

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ligayagardener 9 months ago

how can you reward this horror

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hivebuzz 9 months ago

We can understand you're upset, but what we rewards is the user's activity on the Hive blockchain, not the content or ideas the express. On the latest, we try to stay neutral as the goal of our project isn't to moderate the platform.
Thank you, however, for drawing our attention.

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ligayagardener 9 months ago

Sadly, staying neutral is empowering the oppressor. If you wish to remain neutral on genocide, please don't send me hivebuzz messages any more.

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apshamilton 9 months ago

If you wish to remain on Hive I suggest you learn to engage in real debate rather than abuse and cease your moronic woke "oppressor / oppressed" language.

Also cease your uninformed, baseless and anti-semitic accusations of "genocide".

If Israel wanted all the Gazans dead they would have all been turned to ash on Oct 8.
It would be far easier than achieving the lowest civilian casualties of any urban battle in history and providing humanitarian aid to the enemy in wartime (something no other country has done).

Also learn that HiveBuzz is an automated system and stop taking offence at everything.

If you want a safe space to live in your ridiculous and miserable woke bubble then find another platform.

On Hive we have a wide range of views, no censorship and often healthy debate.

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ligayagardener 9 months ago

Oppressor, oppressed are suitable labels. It's only the oppressor who denies that they are. If you find the term oppressor offensive, then a little self reflection is in order.

No censorship is great but when it means that people can post nazi propaganda and such, then we need to call it out. No censorship means that you cannot censor the responses from good folk either. In a censorship free zone, it is up to the participants to censor the violence and hatred that you post and I'm sure I'm only the first of many. I'm even rewarding folks who support Gaza, Congo and Ukraine and all of those other places who are suffering opression with at least 10 Hive. I put my money where my mouth is. That's democracy!

As for Woke, these terms proceeded that movement by decades, if not centuries. Personally, I think that ts awesome that many people now have a voice who have never had one before. Anyone who is uncomfortable with it will go the way of the dinosaurs.

On a better note, the world has voted 14-0! Stop the genocide. You are even losing the support of the other great fascist country, whose violence circles the globe and knows bo bounds, America. Not that the people ever supported your Israel's barbarism, only the government,xwho Isrrael currently control with all but one if Biden's cabinet being funded by AIPAC.

Israel's is losing.As for God's chosen country, I reckon that the gentle people that God supported in the old testament have degenerated into something that not even he can support any more.

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apshamilton 9 months ago

You are the oppressor, living on stolen Kaurna tribe land.
Nice that you acknowledge the theft, doesn't change the facts.

I am living on land that has been continuously inhabited by my people - the Jewish People - for 3500 years and was given to us directly by God.

Jews are the only indigenous people to re-establish sovereignty on their ancestral land after being conquered by many oppressive Empires including the Islamic Caliphates ending in the Ottoman Empire.

The Gazan Arabs are descendants of Arab invaders and Hamas sees itself as the spiritual successor to the invading Islamic Caliphates.

So even on you own oppressor / oppressed analysis you are wrong to support the palestinians.

That is why many genuine indigenous Australians and Maori support Israel and the Jewish People's indigenous rights to the Land of Israel.
https://www.israellycool.com/2024/02/07/indigenous-olympic-champion-nova-peris-the-jews-are-indigenous-to-israel/

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ligayagardener 9 months ago

My fight for the the liberation and recognition of the Kaurna, Peramangk and Ngarrindjeri people is well known locally. Glad you did your research.

It's all the same struggle. Liberation of colonised and oppressed people. My people illegally and imorraly colonised Australia and now some of the descendants of those invaders are doing what we can to support.

It's the same struggle as Palestine, Congo, Jordan, Yemen, most of Africa and kits of South and Central America, not to mention the indigenous folks of Both Anerica. It's the same struggle.

I would kook further than Nova Peris for the true opinion of Aboriginal Australians.

The simple fact is that you've announced the effort of eliminating Palestinians from their own land, ignore international laws and pleas to stop the violence. Ignore the calla for peace and keep killing children. Targeting hospitals us as low as you can go. Blocking aid is the act of monsters. Killing children and bombing c8vilians is once again, monstrous. Ti do so in tje public eye, with your troops livestreaming their butchery is no less than the Nazis did to your own people. And yes, I would have stood for them had I been the same person and alive in that era.

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vp-freelance 9 months ago

Do I understand correctly that if they had been given the promised autonomy after the last conflict, this would not have happened?
It looks as if you came to someone else's house, imposed your rules, and now drive out (kill) the owners who refuse to obey you
Although I could be wrong. I didn't dig deep into the history of your conflict

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apshamilton 9 months ago

You couldn't be more wrong. Gazans had complete autonomy and used it to create a vast military base to murder Jews.

The land of Gaza is part of the historic homeland of the Jewish people. The Gazans are all refugees who are Arabs (ie from the Arabian peninsula).

The Arabs are the invaders and Jews are the indigenous people of The Land of Israel including Gaza and Judea and Samaria (what you call the West Bank).

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jorgebgt 9 months ago

That was the strategy they should have adopted decades ago, the good thing about the Israelis is that when they set their minds to something they achieve it!

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