The anti-war man

in #politics9 days ago

I've lost count at this point, how many times people who support the Don love to tout the "fact" that the Trumpster himself was/is the only anti-war president we've ever had.

I mean, if you only ignore the upscaling of all the wars under his watch, and the rhetoric that almost got us into other military conflicts, I guess so. In other words; It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it.

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Donnie likes bigly stuff

As we all know, Donnie has bigly thoughts and those bigly thoughts tell him cool things like you wouldn't believe. And, because we know that his way of thinking is as simple as macaroni and cheese, we can deduce his reasoning almost without the fear of misrepresenting him.

I can imagine this scene as if someone filmed it for me and I'm just recalling it from memory:

Trump sitting down looking at a World Map and realizing there's a chunk of land that looks pretty big on there. It's also between America and Europe.

He's sitting down deep in thought wondering if there's a way we can just take it.

Then, he let's the bigly ideas come out of his mouth. His advisors have to pretend there's merit to said ideas, you know, kiss some posterior for good measure.

Some explain how Greenland belongs to the Danish crown, and possibly how it's not that big as the map portrays, but none of that registers.

QUICK, TO THE BALCONY!

With the agility of a wounded tapir he reaches for his phone to announce on Truth Social and Twitter his "genius" plan.

His loyal subjects, those who loved the fact that Trump would never start a war scream cheers of approval.

The beer wenches appear out of nowhere with trays full of good o'l alcohol to celebrate the new Imperialistic ideals.

Like I'm five, please

Someone tell me how I could shutdown my brain for a second and accept this like a sane idea.

If there's anyone out there who thinks the Danish crown is going to be handing Greenland to the US because Donnie is just cool and what have you, please comment below. I need a personal loan, about 10k for something real quick, I can pay next week.

It's not about ideals

That is my conclusion and there's little someone can show me to change my mind at this point.

A serious man or woman for that matter, forges his or her life according to ideals, to ideas that are not to be trifled with.

The importance of personal freedoms, the ideal of peace and prosperity can't and should not be suspended because "someone is cool" or anything of the sort.

The Don says something today, his loyal subjects cheer and claim to the winds that Donnie truly represents them, that he is a man who understands the American way; Only to pull a switcharoo the likes of which have never been seen, like you wouldn't believe (please read that with a Trump impression).

What's the Tally then?

As far as I can tell and from where I'm standing we are destined to have at least diplomatic conflicts, if not worse with the following countries:

  1. Mexico
  2. Iran
  3. Denmark
  4. Canada
  5. Panama

We are going to take their shit, the canals, their land and such because 'Merica first or something.

Like I said...

It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it.

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This time around, he has fewer neocons surrounding him, but you're right, he has no core principles for peace.

It's just a crapo-show and it just got started

My advice would have been the same had Harris won: don't put your faith in the prideful arrogance of politicians. Build your community, pay off debt, and stock up for hard times, because the economy is shaky and war is possible no matter who wins.

Couldn't agree more... we had to pickup what type of toppings we wanted for our pizza and laid before us was two different types of gourmet roadkill...

We ought to focus on what we can affect, and that's our tiny world around us.

The guy is an idiot. He doesn't care about diplomacy and strategy. I assume he goes by 'gut instinct' that may have got him through business, with various bankruptcies. I think it's sad that the Republicans have sold out to him just to get power. I assume they do stuff behind his back to actually get work done. Even sadder is that so many people believe and trust him. The Democrats just couldn't come up with a more attractive candidate and it wasn't really about policy. I hope he fails spectacularly, but I have to wonder if he will even live out his term as he looks unhealthy and someone may take another shot at him.

The Democrats just couldn't come up with a more attractive candidate

I try not to speak in hyperbole (Trump does that for us), but what the Democrats did borders on the criminal. I was a Biden supporter, until I saw how diminished he was. People around him, people who didn't want to give up power, hid it. We (those who didn't want a second Trump term) never had a chance. No viable candidates were allowed to compete fully in the primaries. The nomination was handed to Biden, and I was one or the people who helped hand it to him. After I witnessed his cognitive issues at the debate, I wouldn't vote for him. I wouldn't vote for Trump. That left reasonable voters in my country with no candidate. It was a horrible situation and now the whole world has to deal with our mess. Good luck to the world.

They all have human failings, but then Trump would not admit that. I'm not in the US and so cannot speak for the experience of people there, but in general you need politicians who will take advice and accept criticism. This 'cult of personality' thing is dangerous and is leading to extremists getting power around the world. We've had 'rule by Twitter' last time Trump got in.

Biden would have done the world a service by stepping down much earlier.

Don't get me started on Musk...

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"This 'cult of personality' thing is dangerous..."

The entire enemedia anti-Trump posture, the lawfare, the literally rabidly drooling hatred of Trump, is how that cult of personality was manufactured. The enemedia is the known enemy of the American people. ~12% of people actually trust the talking heads on TV, and the rest put them on a spectrum of hatred running from 'don't trust them' to 'they should be buried alive' to me. When that despised group hates Trump and calls him their enemy, and their audience knows that despised group is their enemy, they just found out who their friend is: Trump. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The entire left, the Democrats, the Trump haters, manufactured Trump's cult of personality. They're his real support base. They created him.

I'd disagree on much of that. It's a combination of many things.

I can appreciate that. It's a hot take. But Trump's been a Democrat longer than he's been a Republican, and controlled opposition isn't a new thing. His core cabinet, Musk, Gabbard, and RFK have all been Democrats longer than Republicans, too.

I don't think this is about normal party politics. Trump is all about self-interest (IMHO). He is exploiting the Republicans and they seem to have bent over to take it.

The UK has not yet gone that far, but people like Farage are dangerous. They seek to destroy consensus and sow division. Other countries have tipped over the edge.

"I don't think this is about normal party politics."

I don't either. I think we just watched the Grand 'Ole Party become the OG Democratic Party, and a few diehards like Thomas Massie are wondering where their party went. Like the Democrats in Obama's wake when the party increasingly went full Communist, Racist, Fascist, and oozing cyst. The Republican Party survives in name only, is actually OG Dems, and the current radicalized, extreme degeneracy Democratic Party is dissolving in front of our eyes.

But, Trump is a creature of the swamp that made him. He's got rings in his nose that utterly control him, the real policies he endeavors to implement are the orders of the Rothschild banksters he serves. His rhetoric is different, his promises outrageous, but that's just a negotiation tactic that has served him well. Jump into the fray with both feet and instill as much fear in the opponent as possible to get as many concessions as possible and profit from the deal as much as possible. Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico is bending over backwards to pander to him. He doesn't have to make any concessions there. The claims on UK, Denmark, and Panamanian clay are really offensive and they're alarmed he made them. If he backs down a little they'll really feel great relief, and perhaps give him more than they would have originally just to get the ogre out from under their bridge.

It is impossible for Farage to sow more division in the UK than Starmer, and his predecessors, already have. I am becoming convinced the remnant population of Brits in the UK are all wholly domesticated, because Starmer is still breathing. The UK is becoming a Muslim majority country by the deliberate actions of the Conservatives and Labour. The blatant anti-English racism is far beyond anything I would have thought tolerable to Brits, with English complaining about their family members being hacked to death with machetes jailed for longer sentences than the more melanin enriched murderers are for the killing. People are being jailed for being impolite, for objecting to blatant anti-British racism, or even questioning the indoctrination of their kids to racially hate themselves, hate heterosexuality, hate the C of E, marriage, and everything that the UK ever stood for.

How could Farage even approach that? The UK appears not to have an edge, but only a continual plunge to the third world. Sooner or later, unless things change, someone's going to have to denuclearize the UK so they don't nuke Israel, or whatever a majority Muslim UK will do with it's nukes.

Gabbard is an interesting case. I lived in Hawaii for 20+ years - and it's a monoparty state for the most part. Some of the Democrats there are actually Republicans. Tulsi's father Mike Gabbard was a very conservative Republican who switched over to the Democrat Party because that's how stuff gets done in Hawaii.

Political parties in a sense are no longer completely coherent, and particularly younger voters (under 50) don't neatly fit into any of the Party Platforms. Platforms in a sense are just ad copy in any event, the Congressmen vote in blocs or vote in accordance with the dominant lobbying group at the time.

I can see that happening in Hawaii, because it's almost happening here. 100% vote by mail has enabled election fraud to deliver to the Dems a supermajority in both state houses, and has a lock on state bureaucrats too. I read a couple years ago, maybe less, that most Americans of voting age consider themselves independents. That may have changed with the recent initiative shift to the Republican Party. I hope not, but I think it may have.

"...Congressmen vote in blocs..."

Pretty sure they vote for who they're told to by their blackmailers, for the most part.

it wasn't really about policy.

I think a wounded tapir could have won the election on the policy platforms Trump espoused. For some reason, the Republicans didn't slap those policies on such tapir, and Trump won.

I vehemently disagree with you, because it was the policies that made Trump popular, not the reverse.

It's fine to disagree :)

Yes, but it's more productive when reasonable men can agree on evidence, and heave in the same direction.

Trump is a bit of an avatar, the people most enthusiastic about Trump project their hopes or fears onto him, and see him as their agent in a sense.

How he got there is not by fulfilling his campaign promises, but just by making the promises the electorate wanted to hear. People somewhere just re-elected a dog mayor of their town. Must have a solid platform, that doggo. Anyway, the machinations of the people that decide who we get to vote for have a lot more to do with Trump getting elected than even his campaign lies. But, anyone telling those lies would have beat the incumbents.

Just wait until he finds out that his country was named after an Italian.

😀 He will never find out. He is not that clever.

He's got the bigly brains bro!

I lolled pretty hard.

Thanks! I needed that.

I agree with you, it makes perfect sense (just) if you don't think about it. I don't have the right words in english to express my thought about Don, but I really don't understand why so many people believe in him. I can't understand. Maybe I'm a sort of "alien", but sometimes I think people want to come back to the medioeval age or, as we use to say here in Italy, they have "slices of salami on the eyes" .

He offers apparently simple solutions that appeal to people, but he doesn't actually bother to understand the real issues. Some of the press are to blame for not pointing out his lies and mistakes.

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those who loved the fact that Trump would never start a war scream cheers of approval.

And....

As far as I can tell and from where I'm standing we are destined to have at least diplomatic conflicts, if not worse with the following countries:

Mexico
Iran
Denmark
Canada
Panama

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He's not trying to avoid diplomatic conflicts. He is abusively confrontational as a deal making strategy. Hopefully he stays short of actually military confrontation. Don't get me wrong, I despise Trump. I despise the entire edifice of government even worse. I think they should be disposed of in compost heaps, perhaps mercifully killed first if they confess to their crimes against humanity.

The real problem America has is not Trump, or Biden. It's that Trump and Biden were the candidates, and Kamala too. None of these people had, or have, any business claiming to represent the American people. They all belong in caskets, or prison if you're more merciful than I am. The NWO/WEF, Papacy/Jesuits, Zionists/Jews, spooks/Deep State/enemedia, Freemasons/SkullandBones, name your bugaboo of choice, whoever is stomping on candidates that would actually represent the American people is the problem. Pretty sure if we hang them all (because they actually all work together running Diddy, Epstein, and NXIVM blackmail ops), we'd have an actual representative government again, for what that's worth - and ~8m more children growing up with their families every year, instead of disappearing without a trace.

Thanks!