We is talkings Freedoms here

meno in #politics • 4 days ago

I'm just here to share with yalls that we've gone done did it. Yeah, we wents up to them liberal snowflakes and shoe em who truly is. This is America, we speak american, and we ain't gonna take kindly to their kind right here nah.

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Witnessing history

I never imagined I would ever witness 60 years of social progress being attacked so aggressively in just a matter of days. I thought, obviously incorrectly, that this was a settled issue, that Martin Luther King's contribution to the world was irrevocably valuable to all of us as a thinking society.

But, turns out we are throwing the baby out with the bath water because that's the kind of political world we are living in.

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At first glance, Charlie Kirk just looks like someone you could easily run into at choir practice. Yes, the proportion of his head might throw you off, but I'm sure none of us could have imagined that one day this harmless looking man would have the ear of an American president.

You see, for a while now, Turning Points USA founder Charlie Kirk has been peddling the idea that Martin Luther king was; you ready for this? the bad guy.

MLK took our freedoms!!!

Listen, you have to attempt, as hard as it may be, to put make a pretzel out of your brains even get close to understanding it from their point of view.

For them, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 opened the door to woke policies, policies that in turn made us the laughing stock of the world.

Why are we hiring lesbian firefighters? They say, not researching for a minute if said firefighter position was won with hard work and merit (which is the case btw).

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To the Charlie Kirk's of the world, minorities get their jobs only because they are minorities, and not because of qualifications.

To kill the woke

I wish these people would do some introspection, I really do. Because if any of them truly believe that the enemy of America is a trans person with blue hair, they live in a mental space that I can't even imagine.

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They resort to anecdotes, unique stories of horrendous situations to weave a narrative that allows to spew hate wrapped in a disguise of patriotism.

In their world the problem with the LA fires can be explained with all DEI initiatives that have taken over our government. The idea being here that in the attempt of making a system that allows more equality of opportunity, we've created weak systems that don't serve their purpose with efficiency.

Erosion

A few times in my life I've thought to myself, how is it that gigantic mountains get leveled by the passing of time. Not because I don't understand erosion as a concept, but because it happens so slowly, it's impossible to detect.

Sometimes I feel that we are living something resembling erosion. The new normal, the "normal" we are inching towards ever single year, with terrible administrations after terrible administrations. The disgusting corruption of the political parties, the distractions they prepare for us, will eventually allow us to look back and ask ourselves.

What the fuck happened with the mountain that was here?

Everyone panic!

The pundits of the resistance are not too helpful at this moment I have to say. They are sounding the Trumpets of Jericho, exaggerating Trump's executive order, in the hopes of rallying up the troops of opposition, and I get it. But their war cries are very much like double edge swords.

I'm not interested in feeding these two groups: The racist bigots who think they can now discriminate to their hearts content, nor the ragebaiters who are accusing Trump's administration of having destroyed MLK's legacy altogether.

Wait, I'm confused.

For the sake of clearing up the waters in front of us, allow me some bullet points of clarity:

Project 2025 is the plan
The people who have Trump's ear want project 2025
No, it's still not legal to discriminate
only affirmative action has been revoked
Trump's opposition is not helping
Panic is never the answer
It's only fucking Wednesday
Don't lose sight of the ball

What else?

Hey, it's only Wednesday after all. We have two more days before the week ends and the world changes again.

Right?

MenO

#trump #pob #rant #panic

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alohaed 4 days ago

I'm a Republican, or perhaps a Repulicanist (in the classical sense), while I prefer to vote for a Republican, I won't vote for a bad candidates.

I got heavily involved in local politics leading up and during the election. We had a group of bad actors, Republicans, who were trying to take over our County School Board, I and others formed a tri-partisan coalition, and worked to block the bad candidates, and elected a Democrat, a Republican, and one unaffiliated candidate to the School Board.

As part of that I was at early voting locations in my county for several hours each day, sometimes at multiple locations depending on coverage. I talked to thousands of voters, and handed out thousands of cards - on election day alone I think I handed out close to 400 cards as a poll greeter. For reference in North Carolina we can get within about 75 feet of the entry to the polling place.

As part of that volunteering I talked to other campaigners from all parties and persuasions. As long as people were remotely civil, I'd talk politely and listen.

It struck me that the Democrat campaigners were caught up in a handful of wedge issues that didn't have broad persuasive power. Poll after poll in North Carolina showed that persuadable voters were making their votes based on economics as their first priority, and in a few races character was a huge determinant - look up our Republican candidate Mark Robinson, if you're not familiar with him. I got a lot of pushback from one sector of Republicans, when I suggested he should drop of out of the race immediately.

I shared my polling dat with the Democrat campaigers, but they couldn't seem to get outside of their owns kin, reproductive rights was their number one priority and that's what they focused on - even though it didn't have persuasive power for the voters they encountered.

Many people when they first approach politics think it's a matter attacking a position or a person, getting into an argument, the point is persuade those who can be persuaded, and their are finite limits to how far an opinion can be shifted in a finte time window. Part of effective persuasion is having some empathy for the concerns of the person you are talking to. Part of effective persuasion is that most people seek out confirmation silos - IE they go to places for news or opinions that tell them they are good people for the opinions they already hold.

My concern is that people will become more cocooned or segmented, and will loose the ability to have rational conversations about issues that effect them and they can impact. I do some local amateur reporting for civics and governance, and the more I do the more objectively try to write so that the reporting can be broadly accessible. Though some have complained that I'm not partisan enough.

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meno 4 days ago

I appreciate you sharing all this with me, I will in turn be very transparent about my politics as well.

I consider myself to lean libertarian on most social issues, but believe that a true libertarian society is not possible at scale, and thus we are stuck with half functioning systems.

Most of the time empathy leads me to side with people on the left, but I also find myself having no issues pointing out their flawed solutions to obvious problems we should be attempting to fix.

The last time I voted, I was a registered republican myself, but mostly because where I lived, Florida, had become a red state, and I was of the naive (i think like this today) idea that my vote mattered. So, I should try to pick a good people. (closed primaries)

What I seem to have concluded when it comes to all things political, is that most people agree on most issues, but the divisive nature of our politics only allows for people to concentrate on being a loyal member of a team.

There are studies that show that people simply vote the way the identify, regardless of policy. And this is something I have a really hard time accepting as the status quo.

As you might guess, I don't vote anymore. It's my protest to how the monopoly board has been setup. The false sense of choice between two mafias bought and owned by Billionaires and corporations sickens me to my core.

So these days, I have no team, and I think that it might remain so for the rest of my life. I owe loyalty to no political party.

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alohaed 4 days ago

We have similar thoughts. I mostly focus on local politics these days since that's what I have a reasonable chance off having some affect on. We struggle with apathy and complexity, and with the million distractions that gnaw at people for attention.

I understand your position on voting in the general case, you may want to reconsider that at least for local races where your vote or voice could have some impact on policing, property taxes, education - or even just the management of fundamental public services. Parties can quickly become clubs, without coherent ideology or purpose beyond electing the people with the correct branding and logos.

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pizzabot 4 days ago

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doitvoluntarily 3 days ago

some of these folks are professional trolls and just making a living off of catering to stupidity

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doitvoluntarily 3 days ago

it's really laughable & ironic to watch the right denigrate jr as nothing more than a liberal "bad guy", given that he was a pastor lmfao ..meanwhile they turn their heads to bad guys engaging in illegal wars for decades 🤡 even worse.. they cheer them on

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