(personal note - skip down if you care not... lol)
Before I begin, let me say that I wrote the previous post because a sweet Hiver, who is a wonderful writer, was in need of help, and reached out to me. (I just let out the biggest sigh just now 😂) Not cuz I'm asked for help - but because the NEED for help is never-ending. whew.
So... I did what I could. I wrote the post, and people rallied, and some were calm and some not so calm lol - and then people came publicly, and more came privately to brainstorm. We have an idea, and I think parts of it have been used before? - and parts are new? - and there is a bit of hope and now I'm sitting down to write it all out for you and.....
I honestly just don't feel like it LOLOL
That is the God's honest truth. 😨 I'm freaking tired, man. hahaha
Cuz this is not the first attempt to fix these problems, and it will certainly not be the last. This might fail like other attempts before it, and what is the POINT!? When we can do ALL this work (and it WILL be WORK) only to have one (or two? or ALL???) person(s) throw a wrench into the mix, stir up animosity and division - and boom. BOOM.
And the answer is... Cuz it's who I am, and what I do. There are days when I HATE THAT. Because I do NOT want to take the risk again. I do not want to exert the energy ALL OVER again, with no guarantees.
But here I am writing, thinking loudly over the other thoughts: "Who cares if it fails? Who cares? It might be the failure that leads us to the next idea that actually succeeds."
cool. here we go.
CONCEPT:
In America, we have unemployment insurance that comes out of every paycheck. We do this so that if you lose your job, you can apply for assistance temporarily into the system that you have supported - for the time when you need it.
In the same way, I, @dreemsteem, have created an account (@oopseedaisee) for the sole purpose of boosting morale on Hive by helping to offset any valid downvote repercussions on decent posts. (Of course "decent posts" is a subjective qualification - but reputation, post quality, downvote effect, and account age will be some deciding factors in determining the assistance granted.)
Posts of this nature can get very lengthy and overwhelming. I decided to present it in the form of a Q&A session, so that you can skip through to questions that pertain to your interest! Hope this helps!
Can anyone get help?
Yes, ANY person in the community that needs help can request it, as long as they supported the initiative PRIOR TO their request. Think its a good idea? Support it now, BEFORE you need it. (Please do not support it NOW.. read the post FIRST. LOL)
TWO TYPES OF SUPPORT
- GENERAL SUPPORT: This is for people who think they may need the help in the future. Assign a 1% beneficiary reward (no more, no less) on your posts to @oopseedaisee, AND delegate 1 HP (no more, no less) to @oopseedaisee.
This is a small enough percentage, that it should allow for anyone to be able to afford it. Hopeful that a little bit adds up for the good of the community.
- MAJOR SUPPORT. This is for people who would likely never need or request help, but would love to give the account greater voting power to help those in need. Assign a 1% of post rewards to @oopseedaisee as beneficiary AND delegate AT LEAST 1000 HP to the @oopseedaisee account.
The reason for these small, tokenary delegations and beneficiary amounts - is that it allows us to SEE at a moment's notice WHO is actually invested in helping the community, WHO is publicly aligning with support, and... who is not. We are invested in those who help, and will use the support raised FOR those who do so. Delegations also allow us to see the DATES when people became supporters, which is important.
What happens if someone drops their support?
Feel free to support the best option for you. If you feel that this initiative doesn't align with your objectives, please do drop your support. Removing the delegation will negate ANY ABILITY to receive any help or disbursement from this account - final.
How will you keep track of who is supporting and who is not?
Each week, an admin on the account will publish a weekly post reporting (1) who has been affected by downvotes/and has received help from the account. (2) show copies of the data received from affected Hivers from the PREVIOUS week's post (3) show wallet transactions to affected accounts for transparency and accountability (4) provide the opportunity for people to leave comments on the new post requesting help for the next week.
What if I'm blacklisted by Hivewatchers?
No matter what you think about Hivewatchers, they do perform a service for Hive. Do they do it perfectly? Nope. Because spoiler alert - they're human just like you. But their input will be used to determine the eligibility of the one asking for support. They are not the final say, but they will carry significant weight.
What do I do to ask for support?
Comment on the most recent post of @oopseedaisee (there are no posts there yet, this initiative has not started.) with proof of your affected post.
What serves as proof of my affected post?
- the URL of the affected post.
- screenshot of proof of beneficiary reward on post, and 1HP delegation
- screenshot of downvotes. (yes, these will be verified, but help the process along please)
- any pertinent info you'd like to share.
note: person who downvoted will be tagged by the @oopseedaisee account to allow for a valid reason given for the downvote.
Failure to provide truthful information will result in request being denied.
How do I receive the support?
The @oopseedaisee account will use available liquid HBD to pay out author rewards the person would have received from the upvote that was reversed. Half of the author rewards will be given as HBD to the wallet. The other half will be converted from HBD to HP, and sent to their account. This prevents further reversal action from downvoting accounts since further downvotes cannot touch anything sent directly to wallets/accounts.
This sounds like a TON of admin work. Are you just volunteering the time for this?
We will be making a proposal for the DHF ($35 HBD daily) to cover the cost of the admin, and provide some of the assistance for reward reallocation. Three admins (@ $10 HBD each, daily) plus $5 HBD daily to be allocated towards weekly assistance. Any amount of HBD that was remaining in the account at the end of each month, would be powered up to HP on Hive Power Up day, strengthening the vote.
(the DHF proposal has NOT been made yet. We are waiting until we have feedback from comment section, and can adjust based on that.)
What do you need to have a vote for? Who do you use it on?
Getting caught in the cross-fire of a whale war is demoralizing, discouraging and simply "bad" for the platform. Not only do we want to restore rewards for worthy posts, but we'd like to boost morale and bring a little cheer back to the platform. The week that a post receives assistance, the user will also receive daily votes for up to 7 days, provided that the post is of decent quality. (manual subjective evaluation)
How MUCH of a vote do they get?
The account has ten 100% upvotes, just like every other account on Hive. Up to ONE 100% daily vote (and not to exceed one vote) will go on any applicable post /comment from @oopseedaisee to help build the account's power. The remaining votes will be distributed to all weekly "helped" accounts equally, until the value of the ten 100% votes are dispersed daily.
This sounds like @ihealyou. Is it the same?
I have no idea, to be honest. @wesphilbin shared this with me when we talked, and he said it was similar, but not the same. I don't know how it differs, but if anyone would like to offer some reasons why it's not around anymore? Perhaps we can avoid any mistakes that were made? Problems that was caused? I'd love insight! Drop into the comment section and feel free to tag me 😊
Who is going to be in charge of the votes?
This will not be an automated upvote. This project is a human-powered job, requiring manual evaluation. One of the admins on the account will be in charge of daily upvotes and weekly distributions. One in charge of compiling data, and writing the weekly posts. One in charge of vetting all the requests.
Do you already have the admins chosen?
In my opinion, the admin role requires humility, trustworthiness, gentleness, integrity, dependability, and attention to detail, and most importantly ,THE TIME to do the work. I have three people in mind that can share the role and would most likely be willing to do the work. They are people that I would be willing to trust with my name/ reputation. (and that is absolutely the highest honor I give anyone).
Are you the only one with the keys to @oopseedaisee?
As of right this second? Yes. But, the four people who gave the most input on this initiative will also be holding copies of the keys as of tomorrow (May 15, 2023). They are: @snook, @wesphilbin, @samsmith1971 and @penderis. This will allow for transparency, accountability. and responsibility in case of an unfortunate, unforeseen event.
Do we get any benefits for delegating? or adding beneficiary rewards?
As of right now, you get the benefit of helping the community and ensuring that you have access to assistance should you need it in the future. Tada! 🤩 I have spoken to @trostparadox privately, as he reached out after my post to say he was encouraged by conversation he saw happening and to reassure me that there are others on Hive proactively working to improve anti-abuse methods. I am a firm believer that multiple options to help is a great opportunity for people to seek the care they need. While our initiatives will remain independent of one another, we reserve the right to link arms in the future to maximize morale on Hive! Please do stay tuned for any updates by him!
So you're building up the account, but what happens if you end the service? Where does all that HP go?
Upon the dissolution of the account, (if the initiative is no longer deemed necessary by the community) the HP will be powered down to liquid Hive. 50% of the liquid HIVE will be divided among/ distributed back to MAJOR supporters according to the amount of time they have supported. The remaining 50% will be divided among/distributed back to GENERAL supporters, also based on length of support.
If I give more than 1HP delegation, can I increase the dissolution distribution alloted to me in the future?
No.
Why did you choose the name @oopseedaisee
Blame @penderis for that one, and blame @wesphilbin for adding in all the ee's hahaha. We liked the name @oopseedaisee because we want to keep it light. Though bad things happen, sometimes it's just an unfortunate oversight that can hopefully be fixed. By basically giving people the benefit of the doubt, giving grace, but offering help also - we think its the best approach to moving forward on Hive with hope. If we named it something harsh, every time someone thought about the project, or wrote the name of the project, it would just further enforce the negativity. We want even our name to keep it all about harmony.
What if the DHF proposal doesn't get passed?
We did think of other ways that we could try to take upvotes and maneuver the account in a way to be sure that our admins got the support they needed. But after careful thought, it is not wise to do so, nor is it clean and easy.
Simply put, if this proposal isn't valuable to Hive, then we happily will step aside and wait for a better alternative to be proposed and passed. This is merely our attempt to help provide a solution. Perhaps, others would prefer alternative methods. We wish the best of luck to anyone who would like to try!
(the DHF proposal has NOT been made yet. We are waiting until we have feedback from comment section, and can adjust based on that.)
I delegated too late, now I can't get help?
Correct. Not on THAT post, but feel free to delegate and maintain that delegation and 1% beneficiary, and we will be able to assist on the NEXT instance.
Even if you don't ever use it, you're contributing to the healthy and culture of Hive for a more positive platform where people help people - JUST for the sake of helping people. I think that's a win/win/win/win.
Oops, I mistakenly removed that delegation!
You mistakenly went to your wallet, clicked on delegations, clicked to remove a 1HP delegation to us, and then accidentally confirmed that you wanted to that? 😉
Well, that's very unfortunate. lol
If you can show within 24 hours that it happened, I'm fairly certain that it can be rectified. Once. 😏
I lost $2 but you only gave me $0.37
You are very welcome for that 🤗
We can give what we have. And whatever we have, we share amongst those affected. It is not a perfect system, but its the system we offer as help to the community.
What if your upvotes get VERY huge and dividing them amongst the affected is MUCH MORE than what they lost?
The system will be tweaked against abuse as we evaluate it practically. I'm known for opening up discussions to the community. We will have no problem writing an open post to the community to ask their opinion of the service from time to time. If adjustments are requested, and seem to make common sense, we'll simply adjust in a way that is for the benefit of the community as a whole.
Why did you post this on your account, Dreem? and not the @oopseedaisee account?
I have much more visibility on this account. It will be reblogged onto the @oopseedaisee account, and it has also been named as the 100% beneficiary. Please do feel free to reblog and tell anyone that you think would benefit. I would HOLD OFF on delegating until we know if the DHF passes the proposal. Yes, there are delegations already, but that's only because it was on our mind. Do as I say, not as I do. 😂
Can I upvote the weekly report post for some rewards?
Sure, we'd love that! The normal curation rewards from Hive will apply. And the reward of knowing that you're helping an account grow that will help the community and possibly help you in the future. Tada! 😍 In all honesty, this is for the community, by the community. If you want to help - it's a group effort. If you have more to give and you want to give for the sake of giving. Please do so! But don't give just to receive back. Just give, in whatever way you feel is best.
How can I help?
We literally had most of this hashed out yesterday, early morning. It was crazy how fast stuff happened. lol So, as of right now? My best guess is to share the word, support the proposal, and keep Hive happy. If you have a better idea - don't talk talk talk. go for it.
Any other questions?
Ask away! I'll try to read and respond to them all in the comment section.