A Rough Night

in #hive-1274669 days ago

Last night we found out that we need way more storage to make it through the night. We currently have 4 x 5Kwh batteries which is actually 3 now as one is faulty and the suppliers are busy rectifying that. Around 1.30 am we had nothing with no power what so ever. What was ironic was the rest of the neighborhood was on load shedding at the same time our power cut off so we would have had no power anyway.

Even if we add another 2 more batteries makin our total storage at 30Kwh it still may not be enough depending on weather conditions. I have to come to terms that for now I will be tied to the grid even if it is for a small amount.

The last thing I would like to see again is zeros all over the screen as there is nothing you can do about this at 1 am as there is no power being generated. My family was not happy at all and if I am honest I had my doubts even though I was reassured by the suppliers what we had was sufficient. Not even close would be my verdict, but it will create massive savings.

If one is only pulling from the grid for 6 hours per day that is still a 75% saving. I expect that will be the worst case scenario with most days having sufficient power storage to see us through the night.

The problem was yesterday we had a late afternoon seasonal thunder storm that meant we started to use our battery storage sooner than expected. That stole around 3 hours of generating power which would still have seen us short by around 4 hours.

We are learning as we go as the alarm triggered when the battery hit the 35% mark. If we had the other faulty battery working that would have given us an extra 3 hours or so which would have made it close.

At 8.15am e power was restored as the battery levels had already recharged with the morning sun which means we can run every appliance in the house from direct power. This only took roughly 90 minutes to reach this point and two hours later at 10 am we are already at 90% battery storage with 13.5 Kwh stored. This is all savings that we do not have to spend on grid power.

1 Kwh is costing R3.12 currently and I would guess from looking at the solar stats the household is consuming 60 Kwh per day which would mean our bill would be around R5500 or $300 monthly. I expect once we have tweaked the system and added the extras we will get this down to around R1000 per month or $60. This would mean the investment would have paid itself off within 5 years.

I had an original budget of R250K and it looks like this figure will end up around the R300K mark $16K which is still good going considering what is being generated in savings. This is excluding the price increases which happen on a regular basis plus more importantly we will avoid load shedding. I still think this investment will be paid off in less than 3 years due to the ever increasing prices.

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Ah man, that sucks. I think that is one of the reasons I would be hesitant to roll something like this out. I know I would need a ton of storage given how often we have cloudy days.

Oof, this is getting expensive.

Well, once its done then its done...

When I was looking into this here in Seattle it looked like a minimum viable configuration would be at least 2 10KW Tesla batteries. About a year ago the cost was around 40k USD that included solar panels. I decided to pass on that deal as we rarely use on average about $70 in electricity per month.

That is insanely expensive and you would never recoup your investment. At least I will recoup mine fairly quickly plus never have power cuts ever again. We had an internal switch added this evening so I can rotate between the grid and solar. 8am -8pm using solar and then 8pm -8am using the grid for now.

That's frustrating. Doing without the grid makes things more complicated. What consumes the most power in your place? We average around 10kWh per day, but have gas heating and no a/c. So our 10kWh battery can generally keep us going if I charge it up on cheap rate when there is not much sun. Some recent days only got us 1kWh of solar. It is very different in summer when we hardly need the grid.

I would guess the air con would consume the most power and we have 4 of those almost running 24 hours. During the day it is fine as everything we need is powered by direct solar. The one battery they are reconfiguring which will bring us back to 20 kwh storage and I think we would need 30 kwh to get through the night time before it can charge again which is actually the quick part here. The geyser/boiler is going off it's own independent solar kit once it is installed and we are busy waiting for that to happen. I think even during winter and overcast days we will be running the entire day with no problems. I still see some benefit staying with the grid even though I am in a position if required to move off completely by upgrading the current system.

Solar and a/c ought to always go together. The savings could be huge.

Yes that is true and I am now hunting for energy efficient a/c because somehow I think ours are chewing too much power. That is the next step finding what is using what and replacing those items. I know I have some security spot lights that have blown through continuous power cuts and I believe somehow they are still consuming power.

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