Is Starfield Woke?

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Prior to buying Starfield, I was concerned for the game as I had heard rumours that this game was going to be woke, and if there is one thing I hate in video games it's exactly that wokeness and politics. So I didn't have any plans to actually buy the game, but since it was available on game pass I decided that I would give it a go and make a video about it. And not suprisingly this is one of the "worst" videos I did when it comes to likes and dislikes.



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Of course, when I got into this space I knew that there were going to be some people who didn't like my opinion on both sides of the political spectrum, that is what happens when you talk about politics especially when it comes to video games. And I knew right away that this video was going to divide people down the middle.

There's a bunch of people that are out there that will scream Woke at anything little thing that doesn't follow in line with Conservative beliefs, and those people are just as bad as the ones on the left that scream racist, sexist, etc. at every little thing they dislike. In fact, I have had both of these types of people before leaving comments on my video.

A big one I often see is how having gay people in a game is woke, but the fact is it isn't, as long as them being gay isn't just a one-line throwaway and adds something to the story whether that is character development or something along those lines. In fact when I often talk about how not all gay characters are woke I often point to Willow from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Her being gay played a major role in her character development and is what made her go off the deep end in S6 ( when her girlfriend gets killed)



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Now coming into Starfield I saw that people were thinking that it was going to be woke because you can choose your pronouns. And albeit that option is woke in my opinion, as frankly, I don't believe that a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man ( but I still have respect for those individuals, as long as they have respect for me) and it was clear that it was only put in the game to reach a wider audience. However in my 10 hours of playing the game, this was really the only woke thing I encountered. So does it make the game itself woke? No.

Of course, a lot of the complaints I got in the comments was " You're only 10 hours into it that's why it doesn't seem woke," which is true. I was only 10 hours into it but working like crazy I can't sit down for a day and sink all my time into it. However, ten hours into any game you can definitely tell if it will be woke or not. Just look at my favorite game of all time the Saints Row Reboot.

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People are pointing to a mission where you help a woman clone that was the clone of a male as woke, and I would agree. I mean you can't really hit the nail on the head any more than that, especially since she seems to say it out of nowhere ( from what I am told). But even still I don't think that deems the game woke.

When it comes to this type of stuff I often look at it as I do with bad game mechanics. A few bad mechanics can be overlooked here and there and really wont take away from a good story. But if you have an overabundance of them, and it happens every hour or so, than ya, it's going to be a problem.

But anyway the short answer is no Starfield isn't woke. If you want my more in-depth thoughts about this subject check out the video below!


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I've been playing it over the last few days and I have about the same time clocked as you do.

I haven't really seen anything yet that screams woke, I'm sure there are characters or plotlines that are, but in saying that, the universe is a big place and it would be pretty unrealistic to have no characters who have woke thoughts or whatever.

I'm finding the game good, but at the same time, I feel that I'm not hooked yet. I'm going to stick with it though.

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I've got other games right now on the go for some future projects ( Capturing Borderlands footage so I can do a video about the fall of the series) so I put starfield down for now but will be coming back to it after Phantom Liberty getsreleased!

I can't wait to play phantom liberty, it'll be good to get back to Nigh City.

I'm looking forward to watching your Borderlands video, that franchise has seen better days. I watched a great video essay on Millennial Writing and Borderlands was a big example they used. Funny enough, I played some of Tiny Tina's Wonderland, and joked that it's the gayest game I ever played, but it felt less woke than some stuff that has come out in recent history haha

Jesus! I never played it yet, but I'm slowly working my way through the series for the clips I need! I just went ahead and bought New Tales from the borderlands, and I'm terrified to play it!

After reading all the way down (I didn't get a chance to watch the video) I'm still trying to understand what you meant by the word "woke".

Woke pretty much means PC ( Political Correctness) bullcrap being forced down people's throat. Things like diversity just to say that your game has diversity. Inserting politics into games that talk about modern-day politics. Moments where it feels like the video game is lecturing you on real world problems, or talking about real world "social justice" issues, and things like that.

If you watch the vid, I somewhat explain it in the first section!

I see, thanks for the short note about it.

I am with you on this one. It’s really annoying that this woke stuff is just all over. I have nothing against minority representation at all. But when its being inserted into a narrative which doesnt fit at all and just to say “they care” is just absurd.

Oh 100%. make it actually mean something and not just put it in there to stroke your own ego!

I am loving the game, once you complete mantis you are a force to be reckoned with! Incidentally, a tip I noticed in dogfights is if you slow right down as they are coming at you you can turn quicker and just keep pounding em with that cannon!

I got the Mantis when I was underleveled xD. The fight with the robots at the end to get the suit was a huge pain for me as I ran out of medpacks!

Lol, I did the same and was running out of medpacks, running out of ammo and everything. Nothing seemed to put those funkers down. That dog one just kept chasing me and getting me!

So I ended up running straight to the ship, thinking all I had to do was activate it to complete the mission and not realizing that I had to actually get the suit too. By the time I dealt with the robots by the ship there was a few left up by the entrance of the cave, and I literally had one HP left. I had to keep dodging in and out of cover and let Sam do most of the fighting. Even still I had to reload 5 times because of it xD

It is an utter bugger to complete if you go in early. What a difference it makes to the gamer though. I really enjoyed going back to some space battles I had ran away from and pounding the enemy to bits. I managed to board someone the other night!

I appreciate your thoughtful analysis of Starfield and its potential "woke" elements. It's important to approach these discussions with an open mind and a balanced perspective. Keep sharing your insights and opinions! 🌟

Oh man.... Oh man... The look om your face says it all! I have to give this a read through tonight...

I sure as hell don't fucking hope so 😂

There's only one thing that has really screamed "woke" at me so far, apart from the whole pronoun thing. There's a bit I came across where there was a sentient AI... and lo, it was begging "please don't change me."

I rolled my eyes the entire mission as it was obvious what it was about in real-world terms. 🙄

I haven't run into that yet! But so far I put the game on the back burner until Phantom Liberty comes out!

Hell yeah xD I'm impatiently waiting for the 21st when the 2.0 update hits before the DLC goes live next week.

I'm going to be calling sick into work to play Phantom Liberty xD I really wanna see how it changes the ending up!

A part of me is hoping for a happy end, which we might get if CDPR plans on doing a sequel!

It is a video game to enjoy leisure time, including political terms and tendencies is not something that should really be taken into account.
I treat everyone with respect as long as others treat me with respect, I think that should be enough. The important thing is to enjoy the video game.