Learning Another Foreign Language?

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If there is one domain where generative AI models are very good already is being a translator from one language to another, without excelling to the point of understanding the subtleties of a language all the time. But for normal usage, they can be decent translators, much better than something like Google Translate.

If that is the case, one could wonder, is it still important to learn foreign languages anymore, maybe except English, as the most widely spoken language in the world, both natively and non-natively?

My answer to this is yes. There are many reasons why someone would want to learn another language. If you move to a different country or work with colleagues from a different part of the world where a different language is native, it's much better to know it than not. You can't really go with your "AI assistant" on the street or in meetings to translate for you other than at the beginning. At some point, you'd rather want to understand things yourself and not through a 3rd party. Plus, imagine the AI translating a joke for you. And you laughing 2 minutes after everyone else, providing the AI got the joke and translated it correctly.

Plus, understanding a language is a way to better understand a culture. Of course, that's quite a few steps down the road.

The parallel can also be made between languages and programming languages, which are effectively very similar, that's why generative AI models are good with both of them.

I listened to a round table or something with 3 CEOs from the AI world at some point not so long ago, and they were asked at the end if young people should be guided to learn programming languages given the advancements in the AI field and here's what they said (I'm paraphrasing):

  • one said "no", because the future "unique" programming language will be the English language (meaning that AIs will code anything they would be given instructions in English to code)
  • one said "yes", so they will be able to code future AIs
  • the 3rd one agreed with both of them, and said that if you want to learn to code to make money than you don't need to learn any programming language, but if you want to learn to code to understand how things work then you should do it

Started to Learn... Mandarin

This morning I had this idea... Why don't I learn a new foreign language? My first choice was Spanish, a language widely spoken in the Western part of the world (Americas, in particular, plus Spain), which I understand to some degree since it has Latin roots like my native language. But I decided to try something completely different for a change.

Mandarin Chinese is spoken by over 1.1bn people, mostly native, which makes it the 2nd most spoken language on Earth after English, and the first one spoken natively. And with the explosive development in China, I don't think this is a bad choice of a dialect to understand, at least at a basic level. We'll see about advanced learning...

Here's a glimpse into what I learned so far...

Mid-1950s China introduced a sort of phonetic system using Roman letters for the Mandarin Chinese, to be easier learned by Westerners. It is called the Pinyin system.

In Mandarin, each character corresponds to a syllable, and each syllable (word) is formed this way:

Syllable = Initial (consonant) + Final (vowel) + Tone (of voice)

So far, the most interesting thing I found out compared to the languages I know to some degree or have some idea about is that what they call "tones" with which you pronounce syllables determine the meaning of some words.

Hope the AI knows what it's doing... I can only recognize the Mandarin character for "I" so far, and maybe the last one could be "name is", but can't figure out what the one in the middle means yet...

For example, in Pinyin, the Syllable formed by the initial "M" and final "a" (so one consonant and one vowel), can mean 5 different things, depending on the tone you use when pronouncing it:

  • mother
  • to bother
  • horse
  • to scold
  • Grammatical marker used when a question is being asked

However, in writing, the ambiguity is avoided, from what I could observe.

Maybe that's why many people say Chinese is difficult, other than the writing that may seem a mystery to us using the Roman alphabet. On the other hand, I heard that, in fact, Mandarin is quite easy to learn. Particularly because it has a much simpler grammar than other Western languages. We'll see...

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Good for you! It's important to speak more than one language in this world of ours. I speak English and Spanish fluently, though growing up in the US the English was my first language. I can limp through Italian and occasionally French, Mandarin I've never even tried. I think it's great idea to learn it.

Good luck!

Thanks! It will be a challenge, for sure, as it looks right now. Will see how it goes...

Oh wow, this definitely spark some ideas in my head. If I had to learn a new language, it'll definitely be from the Eastern part of the world. Their language structure tends to be more flexible and expansive compared to the standard English language which can be a bit rigid, in my view.

It will be an interesting experience. Definitely a different world, culture and languages compared to what we know from our parts of the world, although it had its Western influences too.

Yes, that's what I heard. Some have mentioned that there's some form of a modern-ish version of the Japanese language that's more or less adapted to the wider world.

Learning a new language opens a whole new world of possibilities :)

I think it's good to learn a new language and I think it's because the structure is different in Chinese. Every language has it's own quirks and I don't think Chinese is the easiest or hardest language. I think it tends to be more or less in the middle.

Thanks for the feedback. It probably depends on who's learning the language and how easy they adapt it. That's why impressions differ. Probably depends on what they used to learn it too.

The best reason to learn another language IMHO is linguistic relativity.

Thanks! I often appreciate your selections of materials. I'll make sure to watch these videos too...

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Sorry to disappoint you.. The 3 characters are wrong/gibberish and are not Chinese characters at all. In this case, a rough matching would be:
My - 我的
Name - 名字
Is - 是

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Cheers!

The first one is the same. That's "I", or in this case "My". You can choose from Google Translate an alternative translation, the one with the Pinyin phonetic transcription "Wǒ jiào". That's 我叫, two syllables. Note that "我" is the same in both, and is the start of what the AI wrote too. It's "Wǒ". The second Mandarin character seems kind of similar to the last one the AI created and stands for "name is", but I don't know what the one in the middle is.

Anyway, looks like there are multiple ways to say the same thing. So, I won't rule out what the AI produced as inaccurate, but don't know if it is correct either.

With all due respect, as a person who studied and speak Chinese for my entire life, the first character in the AI image is nothing like 我. These 3 characters are not Chinese characters. But it's fine if you think otherwise. :)

Ok... I accept the correction. They are different, but I thought it's a matter of styling, like we have different Roman fonts. Sorry for misjudging your competence on the subject. I thought you are like me, a novice, when you shared the Google Translate image. 😀

Would appreciate some further help in the future. I didn't have time to delve more into it since.

No worries! Hehe! 🙂