Web 3 Music Is Struggling To Take Hold- Our Friends At Emanate.Live Are Closing Up Shop

stefano.massari 10 months ago

I tried Emanate but I wasn't happy with it

blocktunes 10 months ago

Out of curiosity, what did you not like?

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stefano.massari 10 months ago

I had trouble creating the profile a few times and then I stopped trying

blocktunes 10 months ago

Gotcha

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esecholo 11 months ago

It is an uphill battle. There are so many coins, projects, and NFT options—plus the average person doesn't know how NFTs work.

Music NFTs are a very niche product. Of course, niche product sales are how companies tap a market, but the market is tiny right now.

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blocktunes 11 months ago

NFTs arent our only offering. The problem is that people don’t want to even try to look outside the traditional system. That’s apparent with the number of users on Hive.

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steevc 11 months ago

It seems that many artists are too busy on web2 to look into web3 where the audiences are pretty small even if there may be benefits. Time is precious and they may not want to spend much of such things. We have got a fair few musicians on Hive though. I think it's important to get the fans on here too. I just dabble in music, so it's hard to know what I can get from your services.

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https://hive-engine.com/trade/MUSIC

kenny-crane 11 months ago

I may have had some EMT tokens on EOS. I remember the project.

I was at your NFT page once but I don't think I bought any. I'll visit it again and see what might be of interest.

Just put in a MUSIC Buy order at 3X the previous highest bid, Will be happy to get a few more $MUSIC.

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blocktunes 11 months ago

Yeah we had the 10k staked on EOS then they changed over to ETH and Polygon

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edje 11 months ago

Owww that is an really easy one.

In all the Web3 music platforms, one crucial stakeholder isn't addressed. The listener. The consumer.

Digital music didn't really took off until services such as Spotify and TIDAL established itself. Plenty more such services emerged since then. Those platforms that embrace the Amazon model, all music, short and long tail, will become and stay the dominant service used, by far the dominant platforms. For a very simple reason. That is what the listener wants.

What I'll write next is perhaps a little black/white statement - but need to put it like that to maximise the chance peeps really start to think about this.

When web3 only offer web3 music on their platform- even when they have a great player in at least a mobile and laptop app - they will not gonna make it. Unless they have deep pockets and can wait until most music is in web3 - I mean most to all mainstream music, from the big boys and girls. But this is gonna take tons of time.

Also, those who create music and like to use web3, be ready to not really sell the music, not getting known in any way, unless they can themselves or through partners, get themself marketed. Again, this is something that needs to be done web2 style, perhaps even using the network that exists.

but but but - first the listener/consumers problem needs to be solved, otherwise nothing makes sense.

A possible solution could be to create the Amazon style platform, get a big ass catalogue of artists/music in simple web2 style and add web3 music to it. Get into a deal with Spotify, or TIDAL, or Apple. Use their catalogue, pay them for this, add your own frontend to it, and mix in the web3 music in it. Add a track-selling service to it as well, for those who want to buy after listening to something in streaming mode. But perhaps nobody is willing to buy. Otherwise Spotify would've had such shop as well.

In conclusion: don't forget about the consumer, the listener. That is the name of the game {WINK}

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audiohive-me 11 months ago

I can see your point , music can be listened to on individual players at NFT sites but a player for all NFT's and the ability to create playlists would be good, maybe even NFT incentives to those who participate, best playlist or somthing like that. as an artist selling music is not the sole purpose for making music having people listen and enjoy is just as important. or spreading the message .

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edje 10 months ago

Incentives are something most peeps in the crypto space talk about, but the masses won't do stuff because it earns them some pocket money. And I think you understood me not 100% correct. When all web3-based music would be in a single player, the masses wouldn't come to such a service. it needs - almost - ALL the music out there in a single player, including all the 'web2' music.

It is for a reason that Spotify is - finally - doing so well. It took them a decade or more, plus a LOT of money, to get where they are. They have all the music the masses listen to. None of the web3 platforms has that.

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audiohive-me 11 months ago

all hail Blocktunes embracing Web3 music, I am there with you , I would like to see an easy link to share or embed links to the minted nft's to spread the word of what a brilliant opertunity you are presenting us with. Happy new year.

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blocktunes 11 months ago

That would be something that would have to go through the Hive Engine devs.

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audiohive-me 11 months ago

of course, I was just thinking of 3speak and the links on the video share strait to web2 social media outlets to invite web2 users in

blocktunes 11 months ago

I know what you were suggesting, it’s also not hard to copy and paste URLs.

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audiohive-me 11 months ago

yes thats what I do and have confirmation that it has attracted people over from facebook ect.. just joining in the conversation

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blocktunes 11 months ago

Unfortunately the Hive-Engine devs are few and far between and are more concerned with Splinterlands vs doing any new updates to the outpost front ends. I have been asking for unlockable text in the NFTs for about 2 years at this point. It would be nice to have a share function though, I completely agree with you on that.

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audiohive-me 11 months ago

I have been looking and learning trying out the tutorials to uderstand the coding behind Hive stuff but I am making slow progress due to demands in my day to day. but I have worked in web development and coded a few apps so may be of some help when I am up to speed.

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