What's the point to downvote a post until it reach zero rewards & zero payouts?

in #hive-195212last year

If you don't know the reason why, the most likely thing is that this article today will give you some clues on the issue.

Just ask yourself these questions:

  1. What is their purpose?
  2. What are their intentions?
  3. What is really their true goal?
  4. What are they really looking for?

After thinking about it and meditating it a bit for a while... don't you come to the same conclusion that any decent, honest, intelligent and reasonable person would?

That all this string of incurable bandits and brainless assholes who are dedicated to arbitrarily and unjustifiably downvote posts and legitimate content trying to get them to zero rewards and zero payouts are each one of them an unbearable plague of useless parasites and miserable leeches that must be eliminated immediately and without further contemplation out of this ecosystem? ¿Wouldn't this be your conclusion?

Oh yeah, I have written many times before on this important subject. After all, I've been a target of this shit for over a year non stop without anyone saying or doing anything about it. Without even the slightest explanation of why this happens. ¡WTF!

Just to give you a trio of clues about what I've written on this subject before, you might want to «click» on the link next below so you can better understand and verify what the hell I'm talking about:

https://hive.blog/hive-195212/@por500bolos/i-m-sorry-but-i-don-t-believe-these-mofos-are-gonna-be-able-to-save-their-sorry-little-ass

And if that post is not enough for you to have a better idea of what it's all about. Then you might want to «click» also on this other link below that talks abit more about the most recent history of our "social network" on the blockchain denouncing the ongoing increasing corruption and the nefarious practices within the ecosystem:

https://hive.blog/hive-195212/@por500bolos/outrageous-and-intolerable-corruption-in-the-hive-blockchain

And if it is to talk about "older history" and from where it comes and what is the origin and birth of all these fucking thieves and brainless assholes doing their thing freely with impunity. Without anyone here who has the true power to stop them, fire them, eliminate them and banish them, once and for all, out of our ecosystem. They do nothing because they don't have the balls to do it. Then you can «click» on this link below as well:

https://hive.blog/hive-195212/@por500bolos/once-upon-a-time-there-was-a-social-network-on-the-blockchain

And it is precisely on this "older history" that I am going to abound abit today, revealing more and better details about what is behind these repulsive and despicable practices of corruption and blatant looting in our "social network" on the blockchain.

Let's start with the Definition of a Whale in a Whale-like group.

Hey! ¿Why not "grey out" the downvote button once an user Hive Power (HP) has reached say > 384K HP?

¿Did you know that once upon a time when in our "social networks" on the blockchain within the on-chain market, there was a reward mechanism called "Liquidity Reward System" that paid users who provided liquidity to the market? «Source»

And then two accounts @adm and @abit through their early ninja-mining stake were buying from each other on the market, and then sent the do$h one to the other in an automated endless loop, generating liquidity points exploiting a bug in the system and raping the Liquidity Reward System to the detriment of everyone else at a rate of 1200 STEEM per Hour (~4k USD at the time) accumulating between the two accounts, approximately 43,000 STEEM, 266,000 STEEM Power, and 36,000 STEEM Dollars seven years ago when that specific Liquidity Reward System was in force taking advantage of the glitch only for their own exclusive and selfish benefit while they provided as little liquidity as possible for anyone else? «Source»

And what did this cutie say as an excuse in his defense after the serious accusation?

Thanks for the head up. It's me. If I don't do that, others will -- already detected indeed and some of my bot's strategies are to counter act on those. But it's sad that my bot is stupid enough and is losing much every day, for example more than 20K STEEM in last a few hours, kind of punishment. It's not funny at all. Competitions are welcomed, leave more orders on the book please.

Oh yeah! of course. Click on every word in colors thru these last paragraphs to know the naked truth. I am not making up anything! I am actually giving you the sources.

Let's check now some interesting sneaky maneuvers between these two whale accounts.

¡Open well your eyes and pay attention please!

That this is just alittle bit of extra information. ¡Check this out!

https://hiveblocks.com/@alittle
https://hiveblocks.com/@alot
https://hiveblocks.com/@aload
https://hiveblocks.com/@aton
https://hiveblocks.com/@abunch
https://hiveblocks.com/@apuff
https://hiveblocks.com/@afew
https://hiveblocks.com/@apinch
https://hiveblocks.com/@apiece
https://hiveblocks.com/@atip
https://hiveblocks.com/@ahint
https://hiveblocks.com/@adash
https://hiveblocks.com/@adrop
https://hiveblocks.com/@aspray
https://hiveblocks.com/@adeal
https://hiveblocks.com/@abitminer1
https://hiveblocks.com/@abitminer2

Oh! and of course there are many more conniving & unscrupulous accounts like these within the Hive blockchain. But I said that I would just give abit of extra information only. But in any case, these are the most relevant alt accounts to check about its selfish, illegal and nefarious practices if you are really interested in clarifying the subject in all its splendor. Anyway, I know you're not going to bother checking them all. So... ¡WTF!

But to not digress too much and stray too far from the main topic of this post. Let's go back to what I highlighted at the beginning of this article. ¿Are you ready?

¡Watch The Clouds!

Just as I already mentioned, described and highlighted it very clearly in the three previous posts that I shared at the beginning of this article. I urge you to «click» also in the link of this post next:

https://hive.blog/hive-195212/@por500bolos/who-the-hell-has-the-keys-of-adm-i-dunno-but-i-reckon-the-witnesses-will-have-to-find-out-and-tell-us-chapter-i

Since in this post I do a complete X-ray. An extensive tomography and an in-depth MRI on what lies inside the bowels of this nefarious account in the Hive blockchain.

Whose only and last relevant post on August 19, 2021 only said this:

Surely now you might be wondering how & why @abit has been such an idiot and asshole in granting the posting key access to the @adm account that he owns to this gang of brainless motherfuckers to downvote everyone with impunity as they please eh?

But, what could you expect from the ethics and integrity of an individual who has only been accused of multiple and repeated frauds solely and exclusively for his own selfish benefit in every blockchain project in which he has participated since the old days of BitShares?

Well, I hope that through this informative and educative post you already know and have a clearer idea about the whole freaking thing. And if you still don't have it completely clear. To do this, you only have to click on each of the links in colored letters that I have left you throughout this post. That's all. ¡Easy-Peasy folks!

Oh! and if you wonder who is really behind the Hivewatchers, Hivewatcher, Spaminator, Steemcleaners and ADM accounts, making everyone's life miserable without justification or excuse of any kind. Then look no further than the account of the biggest asshole and hypocrite of them all. @Guiltyparties who is also at the forefront of the biggest acts of corruption currently going on in the Hive blockchain.

But who desperately tries to hide his filthy presence out of everyone sight behind the retarded spoiled pet and despicable brain-dead corpse of @logic who is the real suckpuppet, only culprit and the one in charge of spreading the downvotes everywhere through the corrupt and illegal accounts already mentioned.

But, is it perhaps that this coward and despicable brain-dead corpse could be more of a fucking useless son of a bitch? When rarely and with great luck I finally in this recent post I managed to obtain an upvote from @leovoter with a value of approximately $15.00 dollars at the time. Then have to come this great son of a bitch with everything he has available at his fingertips to try to bring my author rewards to zero? Yeah, of course he couldn't make it. But his desire was not lacking!

¡Useless Motherfucker!

¿What else could you want to know?

Oh yeah, of course. You would like to know the answers to the questions with which I began this post that have not yet been answered. ¿Huh?

  1. What is their purpose?
  2. What are their intentions?
  3. What is really their true goal?
  4. What are they really looking for?

In front of the indifference of the witnesses, the biggest HP stakeholders in the chain and the programmers, coders and devs within the blockchain who actually refuse to try to counteract, stop and eliminate ipso facto this constant abuse carried out by these motherfuckers. What do you think could be the answers to these questions? ¿Wouldn't you also blame each one of them for this goddamn failure and bloody disaster?

Could it be that they just want you to leave? Drive you away forcefully? Banish you indefinitely off chain so you feel discouraged in this place, quit and stop publishing your revealing, informative, educative and valuable content within the ecosystem? Or are there more nefarious, fraudulent, selfish and self-interested economic reasons that justify their collective biased and greedy behavior and that's why they all turn a blind eye to this evident and shameless ransack carried out by these thugs in the open?

Well MoFos, that's not gonna happen!

We have a loud voice! And we will enforce our voice here, everywhere and wherever it is needed so it be clearly seen and heard on the entire internet and the whole cryptoverse on what's going on in this cesspool if they do not reconsider and take soon the corrective measures.

Now go ahead, inquisitive minds, and try to answer these fucking questions by yourself in your own blog if you still have a spine left. Hopefully we'll see each other in the comments section.

Leave a comment. Share your experiences and feedback. ¡Be part of the conversation!

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Cranky Gandalf

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"...are there more nefarious, fraudulent, selfish and self-interested economic reasons that justify their collective biased and greedy behavior and that's why they all turn a blind eye to this evident and shameless ransack carried out by these thugs in the open?"

Yes, there is. Steem showed why. If the little pond ruled by these big fish is noticed by real sharks, all it takes it money, of which there is plenty, to take it over from our oligarchy. They keep it small, and they do that by driving away heads that stick up out of the pool. Like you.

Thanks!

Obviously they would want the demand to increase, too bad they're retarded scumbags.

Please tell me more @baah!

We all here know that you know a lot more about this issue. };)

It's fairly ;) simple..

The more people believe in hive, the more people invest in it.

Ah yeah, beliefs. Like the belief in the existence of an always omniscient, omnipotent and benevolent God permanently obliging of our well-being and happiness.

Hey! such as it appears in the first image of this post. Right?

Exactly, like faith, it took just one crucifixion to cement a following to this day, he has risen, because had he not, nobody would believe in him.

Thanks mate! I absolutely agree with everything you have said.

Which certainly fully answers all four questions in a row.

Although what really surprises me at this point in my life. It is not just the increase of selfish, indifferent and greedy people in this world. But the absurd exponential increase of docile and cowardly people incapable of raising their voices and denouncing injustices and what is wrong in this world publicly and openly. With the consequent further increase and proliferation of an unbearable amount of asskissers, brown-nosers and boot-lickers everywhere.

Here here!

There are chattel because we've been domesticated by cats. However, there are overlords behind the cats, lurking in the shadows. Toxoplasma gondii secretly rules the world.

Toxoplasma gondii secretly rules the world.

Hahahaha yeah. Funny you mention Toxoplasma gondii in this issue. :)

Since this reminds me of an old post that I wrote a long time ago on steemit for Comedy Open Mic about the curious behavior that I was observing in some influential individuals within the ecosystem.

Where I was basically trying to warn to these opulent cats about how their victims could easily do some sort of "reverse engineering" to their viruses so the effects fireback. :D

Fuckery.
Utter, complete, fuckery.
Every once in awhile I come across a post with the broken heart and because I'm still just learning about the blood bath carnage wasteland of fuckery bots, I used to wince.

Now, I'm seething.
Thank you for the education and sources.

That's right Ma'Lady. Utter and complete fuckery.

I'm still just learning about the blood bath carnage wasteland of fuckery bots, I used to wince.

Yeah, at first just a wince was the healthiest option to maintain our sanity. ;)

Now, I'm seething.

How not being seething? Given the unstoppable increase of such ongoing fuckery?

Thank you for the education and sources.

A great pleasure to be of any help. };)

Valid reasons to zero rewards:

  1. Plagiarism
  2. Spam
  3. Impersonation
  4. Malicious content, e.g. revenge porn

None of these can use reputation or Hive Power as a metric for innocence.

Valid reasons to zero rewards:

Only, solely, singly and exclusively these. No more, no less. Any attempt to try to silence and zeroing any content that does not fall into those four categories that you have mentioned in addition to phishing and scams. Must be rejected, stopped, reprimanded, punished, execrated, expelled and eliminated immediately.

What is their purpose?
What are their intentions?
What is really their true goal?
What are they really looking for?

Spam and a whole lot of stuff are valid reasons!

That's what you wanted to add to the conversation, to "contribute", to point out..



that..




detail..

Thanks for the revelation, I'm certain nobody was confused or ignorant about that seeing that the topic has nothing to do with what you said.

Those analysis links are good to see. Are there any programmable feed sites? I'd love to see what the trending feed would look like without whale votes, or without certain whale votes. I stopped looking at it when I realized it was censored without merit.

Are there any programmable feed sites?

Erm, I'm not sure if I understand you. What do you mean with programmable feed sites?

I'd love to see what the trending feed would look like without whale votes, or without certain whale votes.

Oh yeah, I suspect many would love to see that also. But don't worry, that very soon I will write a post that can give you an accurate idea about it. Stay tuned!

Man, I have waited a long time for you to give them sources.
That happened a few weeks before I got signed on as a true belieber.
That fog took a while to clear and when it did, I had to wait to today to get clarity on something that I knew wasn't setting right with the part of the story I witnessed.

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Plenty of pirates in this story.
Let's hope the control freaks among them sell into the rise.
I really didn't become aware of abit and smooth until the whale experiment.
Too bad those days are never to happen again.
Life in the pool would be very different with a 1000mv limit on voting.

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There was a suggestion floating by @demotruk of nullifying stake, I think for the sake of gamifying it we should make it so that for every amount over the limit, all such delegations should penalize bad actors with a sizeable burn, make it inverse and possible to delete all stake by first full powerdown, let the games begin, whale experiments, hopefully the peg holds, and I think to make it even more interesting, pay to post, like blurt, no more spam, and of course keep the downvote for the downsvoters and self voting, and do away with RC all together. O wait, 95% of traffic is for a card game that functions off RC. Content is dead. Long live content!

I wouldn't favor any proposals that weren't the whales exercising self control.
They should recognize the damage they do, and behave accordingly.

This is why it is important for the crowd to speak up.
That way the greedy among them can be publicly recognized and given the respect they deserve.

It's much better than when we joined?

This game is built on greed, the only language they understand is loss, the most effective loss is in their stake, forcing them to hold onto stake or lose substantially if they power down is forcing them to dialogue, to make amends for their abuse, if they wish to take their hive out, or their vote mean anything, though I suspect none of the whales will forgo curation rewards for negating these bad faith actors because of the greed.

They have played according to the rules in place at the time, forcing our will onto them would make us no better than them.
They took advantage, we would be taking advantage.

Better, imo, to shame them.
Then, they may have money, but they get no love.
How will they feel when their rep goes negative?
Less omnipotent, I'm sure.

Greedy people gonna greed, it's just in their nature.
We don't have to surrender the high ground by forcing them.
They know their greed harms the tribe, and by extension, themselves.
Being efficiently greedy is a lot of work.

This was always a risk, exactly like Justin, with ill gotten gains to be cancelled, on steem it was understood that consensus is king, on hive it was expressed as the very first principle, consensus is king. I would be happy to see what you base your idea on that shaming them is effective when they show no shame by their flagging. There's no fighting abuse to hide behind, it's simply relentless punishment.

It serves for them to control the pool by driving people away, which is something that ought to be punished. If you leverage your stake to punish, others should effortlessly be allowed to punish you, shaming would be nice, if it had any chance of being heard, but I bet they'll hear power down and gtfo much more clearly and since that's their entire thesis it'll be that much more deserving. This was always the issue, without a way to deal with bad faith actors swiftly they brain drain trying to "reach" them, at least if some whale that cared about this could begin an effective end to it with such a tool. It's long past time to do something about it, scrap RC, make transactions cost steem, nullify stake and every % over that effectively diminish the power down potential and burn the difference with no max cap making it into another prisoners dilemma where the consensus can form to banish you or make you into an impotent thorn.

I am not sure that the theory is true that punishment is the only thing a punisher understands. Since "being punished" seems to be something that every human being deeply abhors. While punishment may be effective in getting someone to shut up or back down, it probably does not achieve an understanding of one's shortcomings. The reactions I recognise to punishment are stubbornness, obstinacy, helplessness, victim mentality.

The question of where a punished person turns to and on whom they take out their punishment, which they perceive as unjust, is rarely asked. A punished person may be chased off the field, but that does not mean he is out of the game of life.

Humility, which is supposed to be a consequence of punishment, is this something that can be observed? The punishers who receive much praise and prize fall for flattery, that is true, they may think it is love.
But because it is not love, and everyone knows that too, the gloating is only a very short-lived moment that glosses over the fact that everyone loses.
Beneath the righteous surface there is another field that knows about the loss.

Every action has consequences, punishment for punishing people is very poetic and deserved. Considering how many have been chased away by these petty tinpot dictators I wouldn't give them a second thought of "how they respond". I for one believe it will be ineffective and instead turn into another tool used against the community by these faggots, but then there's not gonna be any more allusion that this place is a "community".