Wild West "Phase"

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Crypto is lawless!

Every market cycle something crazy happens that reminds us of this. The most recent bear market was sparked by corporate greed, comingling funds, and gross overleverage on the user's dime. But it's always going to be something. Expect the pattern to continue. Friction and tensions will always be high as we continue to grind against the legacy KYC system.

Bringing crypto into the fold.

Most people think that this is just an early adopter phase of the tech that will completely vanish in the future. It's the kind of logic that just "sounds right" if one doesn't put more thought into it. I'm here to remind everyone that nothing could be farther from the truth. The entire point of crypto is to continue being as disruptive as possible. The tech itself is the embodiment of the Wild West. That's the entire value proposition.

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Think about it.

What does the end of the Wild West phase in crypto signify? Heavy implications are being made that many do not even consider. At the end of the day bringing law into the lawless world of crypto means that imperialism wins. It means that the legacy system has either captured or killed crypto in addition to preventing further uprising. While an argument can be made that this COULD happen, that's not the point. The point is that people who think the Wild West will end aren't saying it COULD happen; they say it SHOULD happen; that all of this is part of the plan and is the natural evolution of things.

Um... no?

The entire point of crypto is to create a subset of sovereignty that exists in the digital world and renders itself immune to conventional warfare. How was the original Wild West ended? Literally by the threat of lethal force and the penalty of death. "Peacemakers" carry guns for a reason. This can't happen within a digital ecosystem, and those that imply it will because "that's just the way things are" end up glossing over a lot of the details of what's going on here.


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Mandala Exchange update

I was looking for more information on Mandala and ended up finding the original post on the matter: dated May 12th.

Mandalarians,

Binance Cloud recently announced that it will be sunsetting its partner exchange program. While we have enjoyed a successful partnership with Binance Cloud since 2020, it is now time to turn the page to the next chapter of Mandala’s growth.

Ah okay so Binance is so under fire by the regulators that Mandala has been cut off from the liquidity pools. Makes sense. Hopefully the new platform will have okay liquidity and low slippage, but that is yet to be seen.

The 0.2% fee structure will go into effect starting May 15th, 2023 12:00 AM UTC.

They had to double their fees to make up for potential loses in volume. Again makes sense, and 0.2% is extremely competitive in todays market. No complaints there. But the real question I had was about KYC and if the new platform will require it, so I clicked on the KYC link.

MEX requires all users withdrawing over two Bitcoin (2 $BTC) and up to one hundred Bitcoin (100 $BTC) daily from the exchange to complete comprehensive KYC verification in order to transact on the exchange. Users transacting with under 2 BTC per day shall not be required to KYC at this time, pending global regulatory requirements.

"Pending Global Requirements?

lol what does that even mean? Who decides what a "global requirement" is. This is a subject relevant to the main topic of this post because the borderless nature of crypto combined with the inability for countries to agree on things is exactly what allows the Wild West environment to flourish in the first place.

At the end of the day I have to assume that "Global Requirement" just means it's up to their discretion based on how many countries has banned them from operating and if they would make more money under a forced KYC system.

As an aside it always shocks me that the daily allowable limit is measured in a hyper volatile asset like Bitcoin. A 2 BTC limit per day? It's been like that since BTC was $3000 and below. What happens if BTC spikes to a million dollars? Will they really let someone cash out $2M a day? Probably not. It's just odd to use Bitcoin as a unit of account is all.


But back to the Wild West story.

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The timelines are off

The actual Wild West lasted decades and was only brought to heel through increased infrastructure and the literal threat of death by the establishment. How does that translate to a digital ecosystem? Well actually it might be largely the same result: the Wild West of crypto could be ended by matured infrastructure.

But again what does that imply?

The legacy Wild West was ended by legacy infrastructure. If we assume that the crypto Wild West will be ended by crypto infrastructure... well that means that crypto is governing itself fully and nation-states have absolutely nothing to do with it. A situation like that would take decades to materialize, just like the original Wild West.

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Conclusion

Assuming that the lawlessness of crypto is going to be solved by the current establishment is completely nonsensical, but that's exactly what everyone is doing when they say the Wild West is ending soon and winding down. In truth it hasn't even started yet, much to the chagrin of the regulators.

Crypto has yet to challenge the establishment in any kind of significant way. You'll know it when you see it, as I imagine that multiple wars will be fought over the immense friction created as these two systems continue to grind together, regardless of what the pacifist idealists think. This will not be an entirely bloodless revolution. That's simply not how imperialists operate. We are on their turf and a certain amount of respect and awareness should be allocated accordingly.

At the end of the day crypto will win because people are greedy and the tech creates more collateral value than anything we've seen as a species, to the point of needing to be charted on an exponential/log scale. As an American, it might not work out so well for me personally, but this is a worldwide event; it can't be stopped everywhere all at once. The consensus to contain crypto worldwide will never exist, as nation-states can't even agree on the most basic of rulesets, let alone ones based on a complex monetary system that provides exponential value to the ones who don't ban it.

The entire spirit of crypto is self-sovereignty and the self-governance that goes along with it. Yes, the infrastructure is not good enough to accommodate even basic real-world governance, but are we really going to assume that this will always be the case and that we're just going to allow nation-states to continue to control everything because "that's just the way it is"? I think not.

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It’s funny how people are begging to be regulated. The system is that deeply engrained in many people that they can’t think for themselves and be responsible for themselves. They need parachutes if they fuck up. Noobs.

Crypto will, IMHO, remain at Wild West, in one form or another. At least for those who remember what "crypto" in "cryptocurrency" means. Cryptocurrency that can be used only through centralised exchanges that require KYC isn't cryptocurrency at all.

Those in control of money, won’t give up their control easily. They will do anything in this power to stop it


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The consensus to contain crypto worldwide will never exist, as nation-states can't even agree on the most basic of rulesets ...

Is that a safe assumption? If crypto does come to threaten the existence, control, relevance of the nation state, it could be the reason nation states are (finally) willing to give up sovereignty to the U.N. A United Nations with real enforcement powers could be the centralized agent that beats decentralization, which works based on the premise that rules in one nation can be beaten by running a node in another nation. Is it safe to assume that global society, or the powers-that-be, will not evolve to a one world government? The possibility of a global centralized agent is something you never consider in your arguments. I think at some point it has to be considered, and I would definitely be interested in your thoughts on that.

The empire is in decline, everyone seems to agree on this, and it's very hard to entertain the idea that actually a super mega 2.0 empire is going to immediately take its place. That's simply not what happens when empires fall. Confirmed by history in all cases.

The current system is failing to scale across all quadrants. What happens if they suddenly fix everything and all come to agreement? Probably wouldn't be that bad. There'd be plenty of benefits to go along with that situation, which is the only reason why anyone would take that deal in the first place.

People will act with their own self-interest in mind. I would be shocked if this fetid corrupted system could somehow offer a better deal even to a small subset of elites that control everything. We are one or two bull markets away from everyone jumping in and those who doesn't getting left behind and squashed by the stampede.

Yes, I take your point about history and what happens when empires fall. You could say the fall of Rome led to decentralization.

And yes, people will act in their own self-interest. I guess the point I was trying to make is that crypto is making it in the self-interest of the global elites/corporations to have a real U.N.

That self-interest might be completely irrelevant, if the system is simply unsustainable and will inevitably 'fail to scale'.

It's hard to argue with history, unless you believe that humanity is in the midst of an evolutionary leap forward that breaks all past trends, which I do. Covid-19 awakened humanity to itself as a unified global species in a way that has never happened before. That new thought/awareness changes everything, in ways that no one can predict yet. And let's not forget the basic consensus among governments globally in response to it.

I think we're on brand new turf, telling a new story without a predictable outcome. Which is actually pretty exciting. And it's why I'm an idealist who still thinks a completely nonviolent transition to a crypto-based system is possible.

Sorry to hear Binance Cloud is sunsetting.

I thought it was a very shroud move by CZ to stay one more step ahead of regulators. I guess they have caught up to this strategy, or soon will.

But it speaks not of defeat, but of the inevitability of technology and technologists to evolve ahead of regulators ability to regulate.

It also further proves your point the this new technology will continue to be uncontrollable with the exception of singular wins occaisionally, and extreme hardships for seemingly randomly selected projects.

Their is no world governance, nor global unified will. Only the haves and have nots amongst the nation states, and if BRICS is any indication, there is a global demand for freedom from the tyranny of the dollar. As an American the dollars strength is a blessing, but for everyone else it’s a curse. Some of the worlds nations are looking for a quiet way to free themselves and a gold backed currency, which is not controlled by one country being one possible replacement for the dollar, their common goal of trading in a currency not controlled by any nation state suggests a decentralized, distributed network cryptocurrency may be on their roadmap.

Whether it is through the creation of a new one, or the adoption of an old one, it is unclear. But the characteristics of the asset or medium of trade their looking for is sounding like an algorhythmic stable coin.