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We've experienced the same thing here in America with our own western-based cultural identity. We've been mocked and demoralized while other cultures have been celebrated in mainstream media for the better part of the last decade.

Recent waves of immigrants coming here to the US were not expected to assimilate into our culture. In fact, we were expected to assimilate into their culture in many ways. I am all for immigration, if it's done the proper way. But I'm vehemently against the expectation that we recreate our country in the image of other countries that these very people are trying to escape because of oppression and/or lack of opportunity.

Have you listened to this one yet?

If not, I highly recommend it. It touches on the statecraft that's gone on to re-engineer Western society in the last few decades. It's probably the most chilling podcast I've ever listened to. A lot of things make sense after listening to it but I'm also left with more/different questions as well.

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I agree. So many of the people speaking sense right now are maleficized (if that's a word) as being anti-immigration. I think most of us are just worried about it being done wrongly or in an overtaking manner, that's all.

I haven't listened to that one yet, no. Thank you!

I worry that the pendulum might swing too far in the other direction too. It's strange here in America. Our economy is reliant upon the illegal immigrant workforce -- especially in the agricultural, construction, and service sectors. It's been an unwritten rule for decades that these people would be allowed to work and authorities would look the other way as long as they were willing to take a lower wage than an American citizen. I don't think that's fair either. I think a clear path to citizenship and livable wages for all makes the most sense. You're welcome! In some ways I wished I hadn't listened to that one but I'd rather know than not know I guess.

I worry about that, too. Enough radical left craziness gets hard conservatives back in and isn't that how we got in this mess in the first place?

I don't think that's fair either. I think a clear path to citizenship and livable wages for all makes the most sense.

It's not fair, no. You certainly feel for these people to an extent, coming to a foreign place, living in miserable conditions on the coattails of a corrupt system that then also earns them the hatred of locals. But it's the same old thing, I suppose. Keep people squabbling amongst themselves in these accessible ways. If there was a better system in place, fewer immigrants would come in and presumably, related crime would go way down; and most people aren't a-holes, they wouldn't hate so-and-so guy from wherever who lives down the street and pays his bills and works a job same as every other citizen. Some would, but far fewer than people who are now turning against immigration due to a faulty system.