Generative AIs on Smartphones

in #hive-1679222 months ago

The next phase of the race between generative AIs has already begun, and it doesn't even mean new major version releases. Who said AIs would run out of quality data to train on by the turn of the decade might be very wrong...

I saw a few days ago a commercial about the newest Google Pixel smartphone now including Gemini AI. currently considered the most powerful generative AI in the world (we were just talking about ChatGPT being the most powerful one a short while ago).

I thought at the time that I should check into this topic and see how this would impact the market, and see what the competition does.

First, I was curious to see where Google stands in the smartphone market. I had to repeat the question a few times and extend the range, as I didn't expect it to be SO low. But here are the result, from Gemini AI nonetheless (a screenshot):

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Ouch! 11th spot? That probably doesn't look good at Google's headquarters. What's worse for them is that Top 10 is filled with similar or sub-brands of other Chinese brands, also above.

Probably integrating Gemini into their smartphones is a way to try to make them more desirable, but also as a way to collect a ton more data to train on. As it took 1st place from ChatGPT, it was great timing to market this, and I've seen it mentioned in the commercial that Gemini is number 1.

Either way, ChatGPT is not standing still either. None other than Apple will upgrade Siri to a ChatGPT-powered version, as described in this article. ChatGPT will be integrated into the newest versions of phone, tablet and OS. Interesting moves! Microsoft and Apple collaborating... Even via Open AI...

I think Samsung may have been caught on the wrong foot for the time being. They haven't integrated any generative AI yet, although they have AI capabilities in their Galaxy series.

Curious to see what the Chinese will do about this. They obviously have their own generative AIs in China (public or not, I haven't checked). The question is would they integrate them into their smartphones? Do they trust them to censor themselves in all situations on the internal market? Can this be another vulnerability on western markets?

The biggest impact in my opinion is not on the user experience and making AI image user friendly, as opposed to the image created in many Hollywood movies.

It will be on the amount of data collected and interpreted by these models via the smartphones. From geolocation, movement sensors, and access to camera and microphone, plus all the questions and requests from all the smartphone users, these open up many possibilities. Imagine if next they'll be added to health-monitoring watches. I don't know what restrictions they'll have and if they will be respected as set by the user or by default, and I'm sure there will be many debates. I'm also sure more and more access will be granted to AIs as they prove their usefulness. Thus more access to larger quantities of data, some useful others not, and some highly personal. But probably better than synthetic data. On the other side, what will privacy become in the not so distant future? A vague memory, probably. @vimukthi shared with me and my readers a few days ago a chart where 29% of the young people would be ok if the government would install surveillance cameras in their homes (reason given is irrelevant). Maybe we're trying to cling on to something that will only exist in our imagination or memory or if we drop off the grid in a few years: privacy.

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I’m shocked to see Oppo listed on here and even ranked above Google
Wow

First time I hear about them, lol.

Google Pixel phones are favoured option for de-googled phones, using GrapheneOS (only available for Pixels), a hardened version of Android.

i won't use AI unless it's a #privacyAI

The best part is that there is a relatively easy web installer for GrapheneOS. There are easy to use tools to run smaller AI models locally. These are few of them:

OK... you made me curious... I'd have to look into this.

It is extremely easy to do. Depending on your internet speed, running your first local LLM should not take more than a few clicks and few minutes to download.

Yeah, but from my understanding, I'd have to have a Google Pixel? Or it makes on other (older) phones too?

Yes, i installed it quite easily on a 7a.

Thanks, I didn't know that. I am the kind of person who only looks into new smartphone models when the older one crashed or is about to, and even then I don't consider new models.

i won't use AI unless it's a #privacyAI

Well, I do, but I do as if "everything you say can be used against you". :) Not that strict, but I try to be careful what I ask, because I don't trust their do-not-store options. Although I tried to provoke them a few times.

i bought a used Pixel 7a about a year ago for abot $300

That sounds like a very good discount for a powerful phone. Mine is a few generations behind (Samsung Galaxy J5) and I'm not in a hurry to change it. The more obsolete it is, the less intrusive it feels (because of the older tech and software).

Apple is leading but why is Google ranked so low?
I’m shocked

Seems like people like Chinese phones more.

Thanks for the complete reference! I don't know why is this worrying more... Because privacy seems a joke to the younger generations, or that we still value it and it's a tsunami coming.

Younger generations grew around the Surveillance Industrial Complex. They have not even experienced real privacy or free speech (of Web 1). Combine that with social indoctrination through media and schools. Even the adults grew up being taught to trust authority figures. I am not even that surprised by these results.

Yeah, I guess I am not too surprised either.

I don't hear much about the Google phones. Every now and then, I see something but I do agree that it doesn't rank very high at all. I do think that AI will be used on every phone to an extent. I think it just makes sense because of how many things we rely on our phone for.

I think it just makes sense because of how many things we rely on our phone for.

It makes sense for us but also for them, because it's a mobile data gathering device, when data has so much value.

Privacy will be increasingly hard to upheld when GenAI becomes a part of Operating System of smartphones. Things aren't looking good already with all these backdoors that smartphones have and AI from these centralized platforms will probably have a backdoor to use all that data collected for different purposes, some good and some definitely not good.

Since 99% of people are rarely separated from their phones, practically the entire day (whether on or off), this could be a way for AIs to experience the private life of billions of smartphone users, with or without some restrictions. But, to some degree, people got used to it. Haven't they become accustomed to a software listening in to everything that was said near the phone, waiting for the keywords "Hey, Siri!". I know it was said that Siri ignored everything else that was said until the keywords were identified, but can you trust that?

I definitely can't trust that and assume that the software is constantly made to listen to everything that's said as long as the smartphone is on. I think this could be an actual shot for some of this companies to work on developing AGI with all these billions of devices having AI at the core OS, so much data to create and fine tune AI models.

so much data to create and fine tune AI models

I wonder if these sources were being taken into consideration when experts said they would run out of data by the end of the decade, more or less.

Perhaps or perhaps not. It could also be about the type of data, quality vs quantity.

That's true. It can make a significant different on the quality of the AI, I suppose. Garbage in, garbage out.