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hivewatchers in # • yesterday

I would disagree with some stuff they downvote as we cannot expect all newbies to know what is acceptable.

We do not downvote newbies unless there is a reward on abusive post that need to be removed.

It needs warnings and education before downvotes.

That's what our comments are for. Ther is information on what abuse was committed and what posts to read to learn what it means.

Occasionally I leave just a simple comment if I see that the account is new and/or has some abuse. Like this one:
https://hive.blog/hive-174578/@hivewatchers/son8ws

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nastyforce yesterday

Unfortunately it's not on every post. I shouldn't as a consumer have to find the post that @hivewatchers or any other downvote service has commented on, to find out why they are being downvoted. When the comment is not on every post it looks like targeting. Especially when we have downvote trails. Not saying that is what you are doing. Just saying this is how it looks as a consumer. I do appreciate that you inform the person you are downvoting.

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hivewatchers 18 hours ago

The comments are left only on abusive posts, generally between 1 and 5 at once. Is to let the user know that the abuse was found and what to do next.
It would make no sense to comment on the abuser's account on each post (it would be spammy).

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nastyforce 18 hours ago

For ping wise I do agree but there should be some way for the reader to know without having to search through the posts to find out why they are getting downvoted, that's why I suggested in my other comments to have a separate comment system attached to the downvote button so we could avoid spammy pings. Where you set a message pinned at the top of the comments that you can disable when no longer needed.

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hivewatchers 17 hours ago

There is no need to search all posts. Checking the replies section makes it easy to find comments.
If still cannot be found, then they can be found in our tool if the account is blacklisted.
https://hivewatchers.io/blacklist-search

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steevc 22 hours ago

Well I only see a few cases, so don't get the full picture. I know it's hard work that may not get appreciated. If Hive grows rapidly then it will get worse.

We often get discussions about downvotes and I still see them as an essential part of Hive. Having them decentralised is important.

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nastyforce 20 hours ago

I am still trying to understand myself. I have seen more cases than I would like. I've been reading a lot of the downvoted posts to try and understand the problem because they do a lot of good work and so do others. I want systems put in place that can minimize the attacks on the ones doing the downvoting that protects the HIVE blockchain and prevent misunderstanding from happening because of the downvoting. The more resources for and people doing the downvoting the better off we will be. Because as it stand now there is not enough communication between downvoter and the one downvoted for multiple reasons. And I think a comment system that a downvoter could partially automate would help.

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