Are you supporting the top 20 witness who is publicly pushing for the exinction of the human race?

drakos 3 years ago

That's a moronic profile banner. The covidiots are many.

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logic 3 years ago

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13 votes

bearbear613 3 years ago

I'm not sure if this is satire

themarkymark 3 years ago

Hive has some fantastic drama.

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jacobpeacock 3 years ago

No shit!

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delver 3 years ago

I don't even know what is going on here. Supposedly it's a troll but then maybe it's not.

I give up.

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themarkymark 3 years ago

None of us do

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kennyskitchen 3 years ago

Ya, you'll notice this pattern a lot with sociopaths, pedophiles, and other predators. They'll be open about it, then pretend they were joking, and belittle the people who point it out.

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logic 3 years ago

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8 votes

woelfchen 3 years ago

Sadly we have truly sick people around us

You can put all socialists in that group

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2 votes

jin-out 3 years ago

how did we end up like this? Sometimes I wonder...

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logic 3 years ago

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woelfchen 3 years ago

So you feel bad cuz you are one of those socialists?

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baah 3 years ago

So you feel like that's a constructive or abridging thing to say, or what was your intent in pouncing to diagnose people as Sick?

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woelfchen 3 years ago

wanting people to die and human extinction is pretty sick

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baah 3 years ago

Is that your final diagnosis? Not even any treatment?

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baah 3 years ago

Absofucking-resolute with calling people sick and not partially interested in understanding or otherwise entertaining their perspective.

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woelfchen 3 years ago

Absolutely sick

Saying sick stuff and then wondering that people call you sich

baah 3 years ago

Hmmm seems you disregarded some kind of conversation over here:

Is that your final diagnosis? Not even any treatment?

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baah 3 years ago

You're not here to have a conversation, to inquire, to investigate, to wonder, are you? You don't know me but you seemingly assume that because I challenge your disparaging perspective where you diagnose the Idea itsel, as Mental Illness, as a Sickness, as something that you have absolutely no more constructive criticism to level than to label people as if what you label them has any credential, that I am myself Sick or that I believe or want human extinction. You don't care to understand it seems, or to approach the other side, you seem so ill equipped for this conversation that you choose again and again to decry Sick, as if that is remotely reasoned or supported, insted of wanting to understand or dialogue, so keep Condemning what you care not to understand in whatever direction your efforts go and I'll do my best to keep with your stupidity, calling it as I go.

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jacobtothe 3 years ago

It can be hard to tell trolls and sarcasm from honest support. I would need to go on a deep dive of content to be sure here.

I stopped supporting Curangel and its founders when I felt they were using their downvote power irresponsibly and abusively some time ago.

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pharesim 3 years ago

Tbh, I'm amazed how he ran into all the honeypots at once. When I see stuff like this I know azircon is doing a great job.

jacobtothe 3 years ago

To be fair, if you're creating honeypot accounts, whose case does it support more? Hmmm...

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holybread 3 years ago

what is a honeypot account??

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jacobtothe 3 years ago

Short answer: bait. It's any databases or other information designed to be a decoy.

Long answer: here's the Wikipedia article.

I'm not sure it's the perfect term for the tactic, but there you go.

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pharesim 3 years ago

I don't have a case here. If you're talking about "abusive downvotes", I don't agree with everything azircon does, but we're on the same line regarding pool milking nutcases.

My Twitter profile header only triggers those who choose to, anyone else realizes it has to be sarcasm on a personal level. He has no idea what anything behind that means and writes a shitpost with silly unfunded accusations. That post gets $60 because rewards are declined, which is great for his visibility and shows how stupid censorship claims are.

This reminds me of good old dobartim times. Everybody wins!

7 votes

ura-soul 3 years ago

I am having difficulty understanding what kind of 'honeypot' you are trying to create on your Twitter profile. I'm sure the readers would appreciate if you would explain what you mean here.

It would also be interesting to understand why you posted about VEHMT, since even if it is a strange 'in joke' that only your personal friends understand, it's probably not the best signal to be presenting the world of investors who are looking for a Hive 'team' to assess before investing and are left mostly only with top 20 witnesses. There's a reason why most top 20 witnesses don't post or say much and I presume it is partially because they don't want to generate negative press for themselves or Hive.

I'm not sure if you are referring to me, Kenny or both of us as 'pool milking nutcases' - but since it's pretty clear that neither of us posts excessively or breaks any rules - with many accounts posting as much or more than we do, regularly getting paid way more than we ever have done, but yet not ever getting downvoted - your claim seems somewhat unfounded. 'Nutcases' is subjective and I do prefer to try to stick to what can be evidenced when it comes to scientific conversations or health topics that science tries to weigh in on (especially where public policy is being set and lives affected).

Ad hominem attack has never been part of the scientific method.

I have had virtually all my posts zeroed by Curangel Since October 2020 and the only comment I have received is 'You don't know shit about science' (from yourself). Since I have directly asked for you guys to provide some comments on what exactly about the scientific nature of my posts it is that you reject, yet you have not even attempted to do so - it sure looks to most people like you don't have any substance to backup your claim and are acting based on something other than what you project through your surface level words.

I specifically said that if you guys can show me where I have significantly been wrong on COVID or even dangerous, then I will never post on COVID again - yet you didn't even try to and instead waste all your downvote credit on something that you could end simply by proving you are right with real world insights.

This suggests a lack of integrity and honesty on your part. The maths tells a story and the scientific method is intended to provide a way of addressing the debate without the need for any malicious actions or anti-social behaviours (including attempts to suppress the spread of information). It is quite sad to be accused of being unscientific when my actions are massively closer to the honourable scientific process than Curangel's has been.

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azircon 3 years ago

💩

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lemony-cricket 3 years ago

Let me open with acknowledging that during our last interaction, I was not kind to you. I took out frustrations on you and directly charged you with enabling deaths and the general ongoing state of the world. I still view vaccine/COVID skepticism with a lot of frustration, and I still believe that a lot of people have died due to the misinformation that is available.

But attacks and accusations are not constructive discourse. I told you that you should be ashamed of yourself, which I believed at the time, however, looking back on that day it is I who is ashamed, for giving in to what felt good, instead of what is constructive. I hope that you share my desire to set this aside.

That said, I need to address this passage:

It would also be interesting to understand why you posted about VEHMT, since even if it is a strange 'in joke' that only your personal friends understand, it's probably not the best signal to be presenting the world of investors who are looking for a Hive 'team' to assess before investing and are left mostly only with top 20 witnesses.

I take issue with a couple of items here. First of all, VHEMT's goals and antinatalism in general are legitimate and harmless personal views to espouse. If anyone declines to invest in Hive because of one witness's personal views on having children, my stake doesn't want their money and I hope yours doesn't either.

What's more, and this is key: witnesses are not the "Hive team." To the extent that any "Hive team" exists, any such entity may have some significant overlap with the set of 20 witnesses, but the truth is that we are all the "Hive team." Witnesses can be voted out. The Hive community abandoned one "official team" already who did not align with our goals. They were called "Steemit Inc.," under the leadership of Justin Sun. Given a similar situation, we would succeed in doing it again.

There's a reason why most top 20 witnesses don't post or say much and I presume it is partially because they don't want to generate negative press for themselves or Hive.

Personally I find this sad. On a platform where we claim to value, above all, freedom of expression and a rejection of censorship (though none of us quite seem to agree what censorship is), are you celebrating self-censorship? Sure, market forces may encourage witnesses to stay silent, but I'm not going to celebrate it. The fact that we can all have different ideas is, most of the time, a beautiful thing. I generally want to see more self-expression from our public figures, not less. Tight-lipped, double-speaking politicians are boring.

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pharesim 3 years ago

Downvoted to give the comment of @jacobtothe more visibility than your annoying wall of text full of half-truths. I don't look at your posts, I don't reply your comments, I don't even think about you until you try to talk to me again. Stop stalking me.

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logic 3 years ago

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8 votes

jacobtothe 3 years ago

DPOS lets those of us with even small stakes weigh our support moment to moment. I like most of what y'all do, but I have enough doubts to withhold my support for now. I also have enough doubts about this post to withhold my vote regardless of its payout settings. I have my own curation priorities, too.

pharesim 3 years ago

Every user who curates manually instead of delegating his votes to a pool or autovoting is a huge win for the platform. Please keep doing so, curangel is only for the lazy.

3 votes

jacobtothe 3 years ago

Well, I am delegating a portion of my stake to Ecency as an experiment, so while I have never relied on bots/trails/pools for rewards, your upvote and compliment may be unwarranted.

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m31 3 years ago

I happen to know the exact opposite of the accusations in the post above. Pharesim is a great friend of mine and all the things in his Twitter banner are exact bullshit that clueless people have said about him and is no way near to who he is as a person.

I also was there every step of the way when Curangel was created. It's curators are working hard every day to reward content creators on this platform.

That said, I also don't always agree on how downvotes of the project are used and it pains me to see how some people use that to smear the good work this project does for Hive.

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nonameslefttouse 3 years ago

Voted for standing up for yourself and not letting this group push you around, and I encourage more of that behavior. They've been at it for far too long in my opinion.

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m31 3 years ago

It is quite ironic how they claim someone spins and warps the reality when they themselves fall for something like the banner Pharesim made while being sarcastic and fed up by people talking trash without knowing anything about him. They take that and warp and spin the reality themselves and speak about how they are truth seekers. Bullshit. They twist everything to fit their narrative. I think it says a lot about them.

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nonameslefttouse 3 years ago

Too busy presenting themselves as humans with a higher understanding and increased awareness to even notice how far gone they are. No getting through. Even if one wanted to help (which most don't because it's far too frustrating), it's impossible. People have been trying for months.

At this point it's clear (to me at least) there are a few people around experiencing severe mental illness. And that's not an attack. It's an observation.

The twisting and spinning is one thing, but the sheer amount of abuse countless members here have had to endure for the past several months now, all stemming from that group, is not acceptable.

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kennyskitchen 3 years ago

It can be hard to tell trolls and sarcasm from honest support.

That can certainly be true. If I hadn't already seen this account's sociopathic behavior, that would feel like a more likely possibility to me.

I guess we'll see if the account attempts to explain, spin, or otherwise address this post... but so far this is the only reply I've gotten from it, since I started calling out the malicious downvoting of the curangel project, as well as the threats that azircon (who DVs for curangel) has made against users:

pharesim 3 years ago

That's the only reply you clown will ever get.

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yangyanje 3 years ago

Drama!?! Let me openly be the perpetrator! dPoS politics? Whale nepotism and too much power does not just result in ass kissing? Specially from the ones wo might honestly lack originality. It makes some here as conceited as their counterparts on other platforms where your likes are valued the same as all your followers who create nothing and do nothing but plagiarism. I am not pointing with fingers. I am opening my keyboard here way too far, but this is about our reputation, being censorship resistent. Maybe they could use some of that power to support some on chain art? Honestly, with all that global surveillance and censorship going on, we all should know better what the true global agenda is? Who does? I've been here for 4 years and i thought this was a place where we can all state our opinions freely? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35102238/

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