1929 Republic of China Silver 2 Jiao, Dr. Sun Yat-Sen

“Black birds tend to like shiny things.” ~ The Bloody Raven

It is hard to track down how this pair of of 2 Jaio coins came into my Father's collection. These along with a handful of the Republic of China coins were basically useless after that ancestor landed upon this new world to begin a new life. They were still silver coins and have a modest numismatic value well above spot for their condition.

Back in my foolish years I didn’t care much my roots but I regret that now with my Mom’s memory having considerably faded and my favorite grandmother long gone. My grand mother would know much more about who had these coins and when they came over to North America. A still surviving uncle mentions an ancestor that was on the run from the immigration officers. Something having to do with not reporting to the Government office. My grandmother said, "Each generation may have the same reason for coming to Canada but a different reason for leaving China"

1929 Republic of China Silver 2 Jiao

Reverse; Sun Yat-Sen facing left
Text; none
Minted in Kwangtung Province, 779,738,000
Reference #Y426

Holding the coin, I wondered who this Dr. Sun Yat-Sen was. A man that was apparently revered by the Vancouver Chinese community at large by a statue, a lovely garden named after him, and the footprint he left behind in the local Chinese community that numbers above 550,000 in the province of BC since 2021.

I’m now on a medical Leave of Absence so, I have some time to dig into the past.

About Dr. Sun Yat-Sen

By the mid-1800s, the Manchu Qing dynasty rule steadily weakened following events like the Taipei Rebellion and the Opium wars against the powerful Eight European powers. Countries that took reparations in the form of ceding important ports like Hong Kong to the British. Foreign agents immune from Chinese laws abuse their privilege at the expense of the citizenry. The hopelessly corrupt Qing court was even more despised by citizens. Their leaders no longer protected them. The Qing rulers were ripe for reform or revolution.

Though Sun Yat-Sen was born on 1866 in Guangdong south eastern China, he spent his teen years in Hawaii with his brother where he studied English history, mathematics, sciences, Christianity and became very proficient in English. He returned to China to study Medicine until he stepped away from that practice becoming increasingly concerned with the future of China. He become engaged in politics with a group of students and thinkers that argued that in order for China to progress forward the Qing’s rule must fall!

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There were two choices. Reforming The Qing court from within under Confucius’ model and remain as a constitutional monarchy, or by Revolution by sweeping the Ruling Manchu apparatus aside establishing a new democratic Republic. Dr. Sun chose to embrace the later.

While tensions grew between the Reformers and the Revolutionist during the early 1900s, Qing agents captured many members of the Revolutionists, some were executed, many more including Sun were also charged with conspiring to over-throwing the Qing dynasty, left China into an exiled life overseas.

Dr. Sun Yat-Sen spent the following next ten years traveling the world in speaking engagements to share his vision of a new Chinese Republic, secure finances and material support to make this Revolution a reality. In 1904 Dr. Sun founded the Tongmenghui revolutionary organization.

1929 Republic of China Silver 2 Jiao

Obverse; Wreath of Rice, Chinese Characters, rosettes
Chinese characters; '年八十國民華中, 貳毫, 造省東廣'
Translation, '18th year of the Republic of China, 2 Jiao, Minted in Kwangtung Province'
?Silver, Weight 5.3g
Diameter 24mm, Thickness 1.6mm

In that time he had organized numerous revolts from outside China though none had been successful, leading to divisions within his own organization. Yet his activities and actions made him a marked man with a price on his head, living a dangerous life as a hunted revolutionary.

While in London, the Chinese Legation attempted to kidnap Dr. Sun and return him to China to face execution. An associate of Sun discovered the plot and exposed it to the authorities and press making Sun Yet-Sen a celebrity and raising his prestige.

Also, Dr. Sun visited the Vancouver Chinese community in 1910 and in 1911 staying at the Chinese Freemasons building on the northwest corner of Pender and Carell Street. Sharing his vision of new Republic based on Nationalism, Democracy, and Social well being. He spoke in Cantonese with a calm confident manner, answering all questions and prompting for ideals and suggestions.

1936 Central Bank of China 5 Yuan

Front; Dr. Sun Yat-Sen (left), Watermark of Sun Yet-Sen profile (Right)
行銀央中, The Central Bank of China
圓伍, Five Yuan
印年五十二國民華中, Printed in the 25th Year of the Republic of China
製司公路德華國英, Waterlow Company, England
157mm x 78mm

The Say-Yup ethnic Chinese had difficulty understanding Cantonese were doubtful and asked tough questions like, "You don't even have a ship or gun, how are you going to overthrow a whole dynasty?"

Of course some of those that opposed Dr. Sun were members of the local Chinese Empire Reform Association resulting in fighting with those siding with Sun.

While still abroad, Dr. Sun received news of an uprising resulting in the fall of the Qing dynasty by February 1912. Dr. Sun immediately returned to China on Dec 21st, 1911. On the 1st of January 2012 Representatives established a Provisional government electing Dr. Sun as provisional president and credited him for unifying the many various Revolutionary groups and Triads under a common goal.

However his office did not last long, while Dr. Sun had fame and prestige he did not have the financial/economic resources, political backing or the military power to stay in office and eventually lost to Yuan Shikai, military leader of the Beiyang Army. The relations between these two men became difficult resulting in Dr. Sun’s exile once again to Japan. In the following years Dr. Sun reorganized the Tongmenghui Revolutionary organization into the Guomindang or Kuomintang, The Nationalist party.

1936 Central Bank of China 5 Yuan

Back; Watermark of Dr. Sun Yat-Sen profile (left), Dacheng Hall of Confucius (Right)
Text; THE CENTRAL BANK OF CHINA, FIVE YUAN, NATIONAL CURRENCY, 1936.
Signatures; Huang Xiufeng "SiuFeng Huang and D.L. Lichia
Text; WATERLOW & SONS LIMITED, LONDON
Reference P# 217a

By 1917 Dr. Sun armed with a plan to introduce his ‘Three Principles of the People’ model forwarded by the Kuomintang. China’s central government still existed but only in name as the country was still struggling under various Warlords vying for power since the collapse of the Qing dynasty.

For his remaining years, Dr, Sun tried to unify all of China but was unsuccessful. Beginning in the 1920s, Dr. Sun’s Kuomintang allied with the new Chinese Communist Party (CCP) sometimes working together, sometimes fought. The CCP became successful and established the People’s Republic of China in 1949 and the Kuomintang under Chiang Kai-Shek moved to Taiwan.

In 1925 Dr. Sun Yat-Sen dies of cancer as he was traveling to Beijing in an effort to negotiate a National government. Even though he never lived to see his goals achieved and leaving the country just as divided, both the CCP and the KMT agree that Dr. Sun’s legacy is as the Father of modern China.

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Sources and Readings

Numista Coins China; 1928 Republic of China Silver 2 Jiao.
Numista Coins China; 1920; Kwang-Sea Province 20 Cents.
Numista Coins China; 1909-1911 20 Fen. 1 Mace 4.4 Candareens.
Numista Banknotes China; 1936 Central Bank of China 5 Yuan.
Numista Banknotes China; 1930 Shanghai 5 Customs gold units.
Britannica; Dr. Sun Yat-Sen.
Saltwater City, An illustrated History of the Chinese in Vancouver by Paul Yee. University of Washington Press, 1988. ISBN 0-88894-616-3
Cameo Raven Brooch from The Black Wardrobe.
Red Dragon background banner from Nyssacat’s yard.
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Nice i saw that ebay has thousand of these coins, different prices and values lol maybe you can guide me for a good guide about them ? xD This numista website is enough to understand them?

I'm not very familiar with Chinese coinage since I can't read Chines except for numbers along with a handful of Characters. I was taught a little Cantonese speak, enough to know what to order at a restaurant. As far as I know this coin is a common one among collectors. I keep these for the sake of my family history and the unknown ancestor that owned them. Numista is a good site, I find the odd error at times. Incomplete in some instances. If I am more interested in Chinese silver I usually contact a friend in Hong Kong to find a particular coin for me.

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Wow thats the best way to find something that u need in another country :)

Ben is the fellow I contact from HK Colonial coins for Asian Numismatics, this is a part of what I got from him.

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That paper is crisp for 1936, nice.

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I borrowed that note from a friend, he's got a nice collection of banknotes in fact I made him a 10% beneficiary of this post just for loaning it to me. It makes a great background.

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Great history! I enjoyed reading it!
I'm so sleepy, sis!
I can't keep my eyes open!!
Good night!
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It's is also exhausting to research Chines coins. It is difficult for me to sort out Anglesized Chines names when they make my typical dyslexic tendancy into a titanic scrabble-like struggle. The effort was worth it, giving me a picture of the cultural, political climate, and circumstnces behind their decisions to emigrate to North America.

I hope you slept well Sis.
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I'm having a coffee break! And I have a little time to re-read the history once more! See, it was worth the while, because you shared it with us! Who cares about this man anyway? But since you have written about it, well, now we know!
Thanks for the time, sis! It is always worth it!
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It was for my own benefit and my future descendants having a permanent record of my thoughts around these coins and the story they tell. I was feeling that these should be preserved before they become forgotten, their connection the events with history. Preserved on the blockchain.
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Wait.. I went to a museum last Sunday..not sure if they are the same person.. But it is called Dr. Sun Yat Sen.. hehe

That picture standing in the corner looks like him in his younger years when he was with his first wife. This has been a good history lesson for me reading about his role in history.

Less hair in his older years. For that I won't blame this on either of his three wives.

谢谢 Thanks for dropping by @jane1289

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I'll share about this soon..

I hope to leave my kids lots of precious metals, I think its really awesome getting some passed down

I'm in the process of building a Chinese collection that is relevant to the journey of my Asian ancestors based on this and the related posts I wrote in the past. A hierloom to pass on. Including that rare epic 10 Teal Silver bar from the Po Sang bank.

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Looking forward to more of what you share about it all

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Did you leave the A/C on in the car in those 2 minutes? That could explains things.

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Another well done post.
Right, Dr. Sun was here in Vancouver a few times.
We should go check out the Gardens again to chill and take a few pictures.
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The only coins I have from China are Panda's, but they do
have a lot of really cool looking coins.

It's interesting that the 5 yuan note has Chinese on one
side and English on the other side.

The English is to benefit International trade after all there are Legations from various foreign powers present in China that include the English and the American legations. Remember this movie? My Dad !LUV ed this movie.
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That's the one thing I wish my grandparents and parents would have shared more information about my heritage .........
Bits and pieces can be put together, one side of the family is German and the other is Austrian /Hungarian.
But no one thinks about future generations trying to trace the family tree🙄

With Grand parents being shipped off to Retirement care we tend to miss out on those bonds. "What did you do in the War Gramps?" Who knows what unique experiences we of the younger generation miss out?
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So very true @kerrislravenhill!😮
I only have a photograph of my Grandfather on my Mom’s side.
He was a officer in the Hungarian military at the beginning of the 20th century and died long before I was born. No one thought to write his story down……..😲

I am also a big fan of gold and silver coins and watch new coins its very joyful for me. Hive logo is my favourite in your today's collection. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for dropping by @djbravo
I hope one day soon you would be able to collect and accumulate silver coinage to save buying power and to enjoy having.

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Very cool @kerrislravenhill ! I understand your regrets as I have some of those as well with my Native American roots. Nobody is alive to ask any longer on my end.

Hang on to the pieces of the ancestral silver; forget their silver content and numismatic value; just the fact that it's part of your family's history is reward enough! Thanks for sharing sis. I am hoping things are okay with you and/or your roomy. Take care! !LADY !LUV

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I may know why my Asian ancestors chose to come to North America but to descern why they chose to leave Chins could vary depending on when they came, that is the date and type of their coins is a delightful clue for me to dig into history to find out. One fascinating piece of evidence is a Head Tax receipt dated 1911.
Back to my reserch, thanks for the support sis @elizabethbit

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You bet sis! Good luck in your research!

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