Leofinance In A Year Or Two

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Cryptocurrency is filled with the least patient people in any market I have ever encountered. Even in equities, while there are a lot looking to strike it big, most have a degree of patience. Not in cryptocurrency, the focus is about 3 days out. If things do not moon then, it is trash.

The reality is that, outside the pump and dumps, cryptocurrency is representative of development. Things are being built. While this naturally applies to infrastructure and applications, there is another area that is crucial. It is this area where Leofinance is going to excel.

Much of what is in this article came from the recent AMA that was held. Here is the link where it can be viewed on Twitter.

Ultimately, Leofinance is a project where people need to focus upon the long haul. This is not an overnight sensation.

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Building A Business

This is something that eludes most. Perhaps it is because much of the early days of crypto were massive runs without much behind them. Markets have a mind of their own and manipulation is often part of it. Pumps and dumps are commonplace. We see it with a lot of projects, even the valid ones. The difference is the ones that are building end up enhancing value over the long-term. This keeps them from floating into oblivion.

Leofinance is using business building tools. From the outside it looks a bit chaotic yet that is exactly how start ups are. Too many come from a background where they experienced business that were already running. This yields little insight into the early days of a business. Those that succeed are able to remain flexible and adjust on the fly. Little goes exactly as planned.

Of course, this is in direct contrast to the quick hit. Social media and television makes us think that everything is an overnight sensation. Few recall that it took Amazon over 20 years to get to the point where it profits exploded. Tesla, another Wall Street darling, took near that long to turn a profit.

Yet in the crypto world, people expect things to have in about 4 weeks. If not, they are done with it.

Therefore, if you do not have a 12-24 month focus, perhaps sell your stake and move on elsewhere. Leofinance is for those understand what building truly means.

Plan of Action

Here is where we see the separation between this project and most. There is a plan of action and it is being followed. As stated, it can look a bit chaotic yet it is not. The one hindrance is the number of developers. This is what is required. More are being added, with another signed on just last week. The team of people hacking away at code is growing. This means that more is going to be churned out.

Leofinance is the grand-daddy of all the applications. People wonder why so much is being developed. While many of the projects have merits on their own, they all serve one underlying purpose:

To be a feeder system into Leofinance

This is how the value will be fed back into the LEO token. All that is being created are tentacles of this overriding system. Of course, many of the applications, especially as related to Cubfinance, are meant to generation wealth for all those involved in Leo. We have options outside of just Leofinance.io.

Having it all under one umbrella is vital. This is where branding eventually enters the picture. Does it seem odd to go in many different directions at one time? Well, that is the model today. When you look at Google, Facebook, and Tesla, they are not single application/product companies. While it is true they have a core, there is a lot more taking place on the edges, some of which has great potential.

This is something that most of cryptocurrency has not caught up with. We have different groups creating different applications, for one specific purpose. While that is a great starting point, how many are branching outside of that? The odds are not very many.

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Adapt And Copy

There is a lot of experimentation taking place. This is natural with something so new. Much of what we are doing pertaining to Web 3.0 is novel. We do not know exactly what will work so a lot is tried.

We already saw paths pursued that wound up as dead ends. Again, this is par for the course. Leofinance is no exception. Cubfinance, as an example, evolved from DeFi 1.0 to 2.0. That was a decision made on the fly.

Which brings up to the expansion of PolyCub. Listen to the AMA for more details because I am not about to try and explain the nuances here. However, it was evident from Khal's discussion of it that it is a token which will have tremendous potential. Basically, anyone who is thinking about selling the airdrop might want to listen to what was said before making that decision. There is a lot more there.

In short, we are seeing the latest in Decentralized Finance (DeFi) being added to Cubfinance and all its tentacles. We are still in the early stages, with the entire project being out less than a year. However, as stated above, in addition to being a way for Leos to make a return, it will be a feeder system into the value of LEO.

Too many look at price as a barometer for what is going on. There is a phrase called mark-to-market. This is an accounting method that tries to attain an ongoing value for asset. With cryptocurrency, we are faced with a situation where, for the first time in history, start ups effectively have updated mark-to-market values placed upon them every second of the day. People look at the token price as a referendum of what is going on.

Do you think VCs put up money and ask for moment-by-moment updates?

Kevin Durant invested in Coinbase in 2017. He was part of the venture funding that carried the company to its IPO. All during that time, it was a guesstimate what things were worth. It is likely Durant was not worried since, being in the VC game, he understood how things work. Obviously, this is why he nets the big bucks.

The stock closed at $328 in its first day of trading, resulting in a fully diluted valuation of $86 billion. The value of KD’s 2017 investment in Coinbase is up 54-fold based on the price. The stock peaked at $429 during the day.

Nobody knows exactly how much he invested. However, we do have this:

Durant has invested in around 50 startups including micro-lender Acorns, stock trading platform Robinhood, esports organization Andbox, and cloud data management firm Rubric. Most of the investments have been in the $250,000 to $1 million range. A $250,000 investment in Coinbase in 2017 would be worth $13.5 million at Wednesday’s closing price.

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If this is correct, his take was between $13M-$52M. Not bad for 4 years worth.

Playing In The Big Leagues

We often complain how the wealthy have all the opportunities and that they catch all the breaks. However, when we are presented with a chance to hit it big, what do we do? We focus upon every tick of the tape and complain when markets fall. This is not how massive wealth is accumulated.

The question we all should be asking as we watch the AMA is where will Leo be in a year or two?

Khal's excitement over PolyCub is because he understands the link to the rest of the Leo ecosystem. Of course, even stated in the video, Leobridge is going to be a big part of all this, helping to drive further value to Cubfinance.

This is just one subset of the Leofinance ecosystem. Having a DeFi platform, one that is adapting and expanding, is an added bonus. One of the best ways to grow is to be able to expand in many different directions. Having appeal to a vast number of users with varied interests is imperative.

Of course, none of this approaches upon what I consider to be the Killer DApp. When #ProjectBlank rolls out, we are going to see a massive onboarding device. This is going to feed a lot of people into the Leofinance platform. Are all of them going to be bloggers? No. Will all of them be interested in DeFi? No Does everyone want to be a part of the NFT craze? Certainly not.

However, all of those will be available within the Leofinance family. We are delving into some of the most fundamental aspects of the cryptocurrency industry. My guess is this will only continue.

Ultimately, we all have a stake in what is taking place. Having LEO means that one has a vested interest in the future direction of things. The question is are you in it for the big money? Leofinance is a start up with all the risks associated with it. While many of us are confident about where things are heading, nothing is guaranteed.

However, that is where the fortunes are made. Amazon was started with a $250K loan to Bezos by his parents. When they gave him the money he warned them that it was probably going to be lost and never paid back. How is that for downside potential?

See if you are excited about Leofinance as I am after watching the AMA. There is a lot happening and many plans with the applications. The goal is to insert this platform right in the middle of the cryptocurrency industry.

And who knows, perhaps it will be a household name at some point. There are going to be explosive projects with Web 3.0. Why not Leo?

This article is for informational purposes only and should not be considered to be financial advice.


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A lot of people are into crypto, as they think it is fast money. They want results yesterday, they are not in it for the long run. They think of what BTC did… and want that. They won’t stick around for long.

It’s excited to hear and be right in the middle of it all now. I see that Leofinance and every project around it will grow. It’s all to support LEO and make it stronger, built it. Like an octopus… having tentacles in everything. (As you say)
Especially as they (the team) have set out their plans so well and follow suit.

Of course I’m in for the long term.
I have invested in a few startups the last years, so know well what happens (can happen) and everything that is involved in it.

Leofinance has goals it can reach… let’s build!

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I have invested in a few startups the last years, so know well what happens (can happen) and everything that is involved in it.

And one of the basic tenets is time. Startups are building which does not happen overnight. It is amazing how little can be done in a year or two but how much can be done in a decade.

We tend to overestimate the short term while underestimating the long term.

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Yes, it all must be viewed in the long term… especially startups.
Exciting times ahead for a few projects I’m involved in 😉

I do like my latest addiction though: Hive, Leo, vyb, proofofbrain and all other projects and communities.
Here I can be involved on such a larger level, built my account and with it help the community grow 😊🐝

Btw @taskmaster4450le I give you tomorrow my numbers for my account growth. It’s about a month ago now that we started talking about the 2,5x (it’s way over that)
Where do you want me to give them to you? In a comment on a post or discord? Or?

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Put it together in a post. Let others see the progress you made. Include screenshots and get it over 500 words if you can. Drop a link in Leomarkettalk once you post it so I can see it.

I think it is a great story to tell and we can use that to motivate others. Numbers tell the entire story so I am looking forward to seeing what you post.

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Ok great will do a post tomorrow about it 😊
500 words is easy, most of my posts are long anyway. I tend always to write a lot and include loads of photos 😉

Thanks!

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Good. Make it a good one and you just might find yourself on the front page of Leofinance.

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!LUV

Right back at you buddy.

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Not at all, cryptocurrency is not an overnight success.
Time is all that is required for a project to be a great success.

Leofinance team is working tirelessly to get to the top and the community has a strong back, one or two years could be enough even more, who knows?

Not just "time", because a lot of projects have existed for years with no tangible growth.

I think what is needed alongside time is a clear-cut roadmap (project's goals) and needed developments.

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I think what is needed alongside time is a clear-cut roadmap (project's goals) and needed developments.

This is all in place by the community.

That is true. The development team is pounding away at code, bringing us out some cool stuff. As for the community, it is up to us to carry the torch for the online stuff. This is where we help to make this place appealing to those who are joining us.

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Hlo,sir how one can focus over good writing post here in this community..

Hi, Pick a topic that is financially related, can be about a crypto or other investment.

Then write about either in a language you can write in or use a proof reader! It's not easy, but with time and effort it can be great.

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Crypto requires focus and patience. If you don’t have that, I’m sorry.

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If one has learnt to be patient in a stock market, then should know being much more patient in cryptocurrency market.

Most arent patient in the stock market either.

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Patience is the key. Many people don't want to learn, they want to start making profit immediately. Crypto is all about pressing the key,the money will show.

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There is another side to all this. People want to look at the value in USD (or whatever fiat) terms. Instead they should look at the number of a particular token they have and how is it increasing. This is what makes the difference.

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That's it. The account they register free,they want to make millions a day.They are not serious.

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Well a millions dollars can be made. After all, this is the age of abundance. Look at all the millionaires that were created through Splinterlands. Of course, it is vital to remember that a lot of work is required and it will take time.

That is where we lost most of them.

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That's true

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I am excited for every AMA :) The good aspect of Leofinance is its association with Hive and yet have its own niche. I liked the idea of getting Hive people airdrop the token for the second IDO and bring them to the passive earning of DeFi. I am very positive about all the work that is done under the umbrella and also get the point that we need to wait to see the long term impact. Having said that, I would like Leofinance to cover all aspects of web 3.0 which includes NFts as well.

I am excited for every AMA

I hear you on this. However, today's hit me hard for some reason. Perhaps it was the depth Khal went into when explaining PolyCub and what it can do. That really opened my eyes to the potential we see forming here.

Yes I think Leofinance is going to cover most aspects of Web 3.0 eventually. There are so many tentacles being sent out, some are going to hit something solid.

How many users can the entire platform attract? It would be great to eventually get hundreds of thousands of users.

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I have some reservations about the model Khal and the team are launching with Polucub. I could be wrong about my assumption. I have used the Ellipsis platform the polycub staking referred during the AMA. I am not sure if that was successful. It is great for the platform as the model requires users to stake for a specific time period to get the full reward. That model rewards long term holders. I am not sure if there are enough new people/investors who will hang around with polycub for that long.

I am optimistic and yet pessimistic with user number. Hive is small but it is working. I have never seen Hive mentioned as one of the potential web 3.0 platforms/blockchains. I seriously hope that the project blank change the fortune in telling the masses that Twitter can be done in a decentralized way.

Thanks for your feedback about the PolyCub mechanics and your experience with it.

I have never seen Hive mentioned as one of the potential web 3.0 platforms/blockchains.

That is true and it is because Hive is still flying under the radar. That is okay at this moment because it is allowing development to take place. What is funny is a lot of what I see mentioned as the future of Web 3.0 isnt likely to be it either.

There is a lot out there that gets a quick start but drifts away. The lesson of EOS is still fresh. That was touted as the "Ethereum Killer" and it ended up doing nothing. Perhaps Larimer will kick new live into it but I am not so sure.

Still a long way to go in this game.

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I agree with the web 3.0 projects mentioned on crypto twitter. As you said on some other posts, the crypto crowd is not big. Few VCs and large investors can call a shot and shoot a project to the moon. Look at Solana. I am not sure if the value it has right now really comes from the projects on the chain or is pumped by the super bullish VCs.
All web 3.0 projects mentioned have nothing to demonstrate unlike Hive. May be you are right in saying Hive is still under radar.

Yes this is so much like the DotCom era when projects were pumped yet had not staying power. That is the main challenge. As this industry expands, who is going to be left standing.

Without anything taking place, what are they projects going to put forth after the pump is over. Many are grumbling about Cardano and its lack of progress. It is being called Vaporware by many.

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Other than Ethereum, no other chain has succeed in delivering meaningful development/engagement. Hive is the one not on anyone's radar but I have witnessed new projects in the two years that I am here.

There is a lot being put together that is tied to Hive. The latest is Listnerds which is a self contained system yet does have great potential. It is also a feeder system into Hive.

#ProjectBlank is really going to be a tool that everyone on Hive loves.

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Amazon wasn't profitable until 10 years in, and it was small.

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I didnt look closely at the chart but it makes sense. I know the company also didnt focus much on profit maximizing until 2017. Before that, it was growth and expansion.

Around 2017 the profit went parabolic.

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Those AMA's have been really awesome lately. I didn't realize how much great information is in them. Being able to see how excited Khal gets about the future of Leo is pretty awesome too. It give me a lot of good feels about this place. I like how you talk about people having short attention spans. I'd add to that they also have basic inability to handle setbacks. You are in a highly volatile space right now. Getting burned should be a learning lesson, not an opportunity to jump in the Telegram channels and cry and rake the devs over the coals.

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Volatility tends to smooth out over time. That is how it can be defeated. The long term focus helps to offset the short term moves that drive most people nuts.

Keep adding and growing while trusting Khal's excitement. He is really looking forward to getting more development out. That is something I can get behind.

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Yeah, I think a large number of people are just going into this blindly. The good ones are taking the time to get educated about what is happening. The criers are the ones that don't dig deeper.

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The criers are the ones that don't dig deeper.

They dont dig at all. It is not very well hidden. We make it known what is happening and there are more cases examples of people who are fulfilling exactly what we profess.

The reality is they do not want to listen or learn. Instead, they have in their minds this wont work or whatever their belief system is.

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Can't wait to see where Leo is 2 years from now. About Jan 20th I heard you in an episode of CryptoManiacs say "The day I decided not to sell Leo anymore..." Something in my head clicked and I have staked every bit of Leo since.

i don't doubt leofinance in it's niche is a good project but it's a mistake to think good project equals success. it's pumpamentals and tokenomics that make a crypto. people don't care about if it's a good project

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The most profitable way in crypto is having the long-term focus. Having this mindset requires a lot of patience and belief in a project. More so, being patient and focused on building is easier when you can see the potentials of a certain crypto project like Leofinance and where it us headed in a few years

Leofinance isn't some shitcoin project that do 100X in days and then falls -1000X the next day. Hence, to really appreciate Leofinance, one must look deeper to see the solutions it is offering presently and the projected future solutions. These kind of projects must be grown in a manner such that it can be sustainable.

Time, collective effort and development is needed.

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It is giving us, in my opinion, the same opportunities as those who are venture capitalists.

We are going to make a lot of money if this is successful. And we know there are people who are doing all they can to ensure that. It is very amazing to see.

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...venture capitalists

Not very conversant with the economics terms...lol I'm an engineer 😅

But I do understand that big sums will be made from Leofinance only by those who are positioning themselves in this building phase of the project.

I don't know if I should be angry that I didn't channel my energy to the community earlier. But I believe, it's not too late to get positioned.

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I don't know if I should be angry that I didn't channel my energy to the community earlier.

It would serve no purpose. Cant change the past.

Look at it this way: those who join here next week, month or year, will wish they could have done what you are doing today.

So you are already ahead of them.

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Thank you my unofficial mentor for these constant motivations and encouragement. Believe me, you are the major reason, I haven't quitted. It feels exciting to know that someone somewhere is concerned about your growth.

Thank you for everything 🙌

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Well it is up to us to keep each other going. There is a lot of benefit being created for those who are involved. The majority walk away when they do not get instant results. That is where their downfall is.

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By that, you mean people should keep staying consistent even when big results don't show up. Who knows, the attention of people might turn to you if you come showing up consistently.

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I also believe that LeoFinance has good goals and plans for long way to go. Team leaders working really hard. I follow them on social media platforms and get updates. Their talk shows are also really very good. I wish more success of LeoFinance.

Yes it seems like there is a team dedicated to doing a lot of different things. That is important. We are now entering the stage where getting a bit more attention will help.

Nevertheless, for those of us on here now, the point is clear: keep adding to the site.

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And I think you are also playing a great role or contributing a lot by posting regular quality blogs in this awesome platform LeoFinance. Here team working hard to make a win-win relationship among us 💖

I am just one piece in this puzzle. A lot more is needed by a lot of people. That is what is meant by "community".

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Ha ha indeed you are one piece no doubt. Keep continue being exceptional and discover everything unique.

Leo Finance has just started and there is still a lot of ground to cover. This can be and will be done with the strong belief of the Leo community. I wonder why I took so much time diving into this haha!

There certainly is and they are trying to address a lot of different directions at one time. The fact that more developers appear to be onboard is promising.

It might take longer for major impact since there are a lot of paths being followed yet, when it does come together, that will be huge.

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The way Leo is moving, that is no surprise.

If we continue building, I don't see any reason why LeoFinance can't explode upwards. I think it may take more than just 1 or 2 years and project blank can definitely feed into everything. I am just wondering whether or not Defi will be a success right now because I have seen so many people talk about how CUB has performed. PolyCub is going to follow a different structure so I think it will do well.

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Hard to tell what will do well. And Leo's growth will, in part, be tied to how the overall crypto world fares. If there are a lot of people joining, Cubfinance could also be well rewarded with new users.

It is up to the project to get word out. Having the pieces in place certainly help.

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If things do not moon then, it is trash.

Funny! And then they blame everyone else when they lose money and fret when they see long-term holders succeeding.

Ultimately, Leofinance is a project where people need to focus upon the long haul. This is not an overnight sensation.

Hopefully, still have 5 to 10 years to see everything materialize.

Pumps and dumps are commonplace.

I don’t know how many invitations on Discord did I delete, but they seem to multiply every day.

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Yep. If people simply look for them, they see they are out there.

It is amazing how we can pick up on this stuff if we step back some.

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The developments and evolution of Leo since inception are what actually define true essence of Web3, and as you said :

Leofinance is using business building tools

LEO Ecosystem is revolutionary in itself. 😊
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...and these consistent developments and building come to consolidate our bullish $LEO mindset.

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It is unreal what the potential for the $LEO token is. Some will laugh at the numbers we can toss around but the float is so low, relative to other projects, that we cannot overlook the massive upside.

$10 LEO is not even a $100 million project which is nothing in the crypto world.

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It truly is revolutionary. We are in the early days of everything. This means that those projects that are reaching in different directions will find success if anything hits.

With Leo, we have a chance to have a few different applications turning into something spectacular.

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I also love #Leofinance, I see a great future there, growing slowly but surely. The big mistake that most of us make is that you point out that we want to make profits overnight. In short, if we have a little patience, I am totally sure that we will be able to meet all the goals that we set for ourselves.

It is easy to fall into especially when other stuff, with less development, is taking off. That said, we have to watch the important metrics, not just the price. That can be very misleading.

After all, where is Webvan today? It was a hot idea during the dotcom.

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Something that you know frustrates me is when people don't want to consider why a community's tokens has value.

You need to be able to answer what is the incentive for someone to keep buying the tokens that you're dumping on the market so you can 'earn from your blog'?

If you can't answer this question, then your token is going to grind down to zero.

But for me, LeoFinance and the LEO token is different.

The value behind the LEO token is:

  • Its ability to provide businesses with influence over a lucrative, targeted crypto community
  • LeoBridge revenue - Hive's gateway to other networks
  • Ad revenue via SEO

When I stop and consider where LeoFinance may be in a year or two, I definitely get excited.

You refer to LeoFinance being a business and essentially that's what its all about.

Getting to the point where price prints a stable floor due to predictable, ongoing value being generated from the above (and more!).

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Another thing we can add:

  • Liquidity pools on many different chains.

The LEO token is getting diluted in the sense that it is being spread among different places. We have the use case of curation. But there is also the BSC LP, soon the Polygon, and eventually the RUNE which looks like it will be the move of wLEO.

All of this is providing use case for the token above just the get rewarded for a post and dump the token.

It is also why I think $CTP is now in a favorable position. The use case on Listnerds is going to end up making that one scarce also.

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Yep, the ability to earn via LPs is a good one that I forgot!

Not to mention the fact that yield on both the LEO LP on Hive and CubFinance, offers sustainability by paying rewards using BXT and CUB (not LEO itself!).

I mean, if they're going to zero then that doesn't help us, but if you dig a little deeper into each coin's sustainable tokenomics, you'll see that is not the case.

LeoFinance and the LEO token is certainly positioned in a good place.

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The layering adds a bunch of value to the entire ecosystem. We are going to see different aspects of the ecosystem leverage itself against each other.

That is where the value lies. One layer, like ProjectBlank, can skyrocket just about everything else.

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The growth of leo increases daily with the amazing efforts the team are contributing to make sure the platform progresses and I appreciate that and also the way they showcase to the world on what's happening around the world of crypto in social media with the likes of tik Tok, Facebook, twitter which is amazing and a way to bring more people to the world of crypto to also benefit from it

There are a lot of directions this can go. How will it all unfold, that remains to be seen. But being involved with so many "central pieces" of Web 3.0 is a great idea.

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I guess, most of it is because once people get in, they keep looking at the opportunity cost. When there is no price appreciation and degradation instead. People bail out to jump on another ship. But definitely leo is turning into a giant ecosystem, its no longer just an app or a platform. Unlike many projects, it can be said with conviction that it is going to be around untill I die and beyond lol. It is no longer prone to destruction or abandonment. It has carved a substantially large footprint. Which is ultra positive. Just a matter of time until everything about leo soars.

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It is no longer prone to destruction or abandonment.

This is very true. We have a core group that will not abandon this until we are either on the moon or the bottom of the ocean. All or nothing.

While that seems risky, to me it means commitment. And when a vast number of people have that, here is where success is found.

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And when a vast number of people have that, here is where success is found.

Wonderfully said master. 👌👍

Thank you..I think. LOL

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Have been following the Leo community closely even before I started posting here and I noticed that the team is working hard everyday to develop and expand. The constant update from the team give me reasons to join. I see a team that want to be part of future without neglecting what is at hand. Leo finance are worth developing with

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It is dedicated and growing. That is what is outstanding about the team.

We are now at the point where we can start to see some results in terms of the development. As Khal stated, a lot of this was in the works the last 9-12 months. So much taking place behind the scenes.

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