New evidence emerged that the Tesla Optimus bar robots shown at the "We, Robot" event were "tele-operated" by humans including voice 😂

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Neue Hinweise, dass die Tesla Optimus-Roboter, die beim "We, Robot"-Event präsentiert wurden, in Wirklichkeit von Menschen ferngesteuert wurden inkl. deren Stimme.

Ein Gast fragt einen Roboter, der an der Bar arbeitet und Getränke ausschenkt, ob er fern-gesteuert werde, und dieser gibt zu, wörtlich "von einem Menschen unterstützt" zu werden.

Die Antwort klingt ebenfalls so, als würde sie nicht von einer LLM, sondern von einem Menschen kommen, der den Roboter steuert.

Ein Video von Tesla zeigt auch generell, wie die Roboter mit einem VR-Headset und einem speziellen Anzug "ferngesteuert" bzw. trainiert werden können.

Ich denke, man hätte das bei der Demo klarer kommunizieren müssen, dass die Roboter ferngesteuert sind, falls sie es tatsächlich waren. Alleine das wäre schon beeindruckend genug gewesen, aber so sieht es eher aus, als wollte man schummeln, damit die Technologie fortgeschrittener wirke, als sie tatsächlich ist.

Und wieder verspricht Elon Musk in seiner "We, Robot"-Keynote "Full Self Driving" in einem Jahr. Diesmal fügte er noch hinzu "unsupervised" Full Self Driving. Diese Versprechen gibt es jedes Jahr seit mindestens 2019.

In der Realität ist "Full Self Driving" aber eher ein Level-2-Assistenzsystem, das die ständige Aufmerksamkeit und das Einschreiten des Fahrers erfordert.

Was sagt ihr dazu? Denkt ihr, dass Tesla bei der Präsentation geschummelt hat? Kommt "Full Self Driving" und Robo-Taxi in einem Jahr wirklich?

Source: Tesla Optimus (footage not from the "We, Robot" event but a general video about Optimus)

https://x.com/TroyTeslike/status/1845047695284613344

https://x.com/zhen9436/status/1844773471240294651

https://x.com/Kaesetopf/status/1845366488988787196

Are Tesla’s robot prototypes AI marvels or remote-controlled toys?

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/10/are-teslas-robot-prototypes-ai-marvels-or-remote-controlled-toys/

Tesla Optimus robots were powered by human Cosplayers in 2021

https://x.com/DoctorJack16/status/1845057277528564194

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New evidence has emerged that the Tesla Optimus bar robots presented at the ‘We, Robot’ event were in fact remote-controlled by humans, including their voice.

A guest asks a robot working at the bar and serving drinks whether it is remote-controlled, and it admits to being "assisted by a human’"

The answer also sounds as if it is not coming from an LLM, but rather from a human controlling the robot.

A video from Tesla also shows in general how the robots could be "remotely controlled" or trained using a VR headset and a special suit.

I think they should have communicated more clearly during the demo that the robots are remote-controlled if so. That alone would have been impressive enough, but it looks more like they were trying to cheat to make the technology look more advanced than it actually is.

And again, Elon Musk promises "Full Self Driving" in a year in his "We, Robot" keynote speech. This time he added "unsupervised" Full Self Driving. These promises have been made every year since at least 2019.

In reality, however, "Full Self Driving" is more of a level 2 assistance system that requires the driver's constant attention and intervention.

What do you think? Do you think Tesla cheated during the presentation? Will "Full Self Driving" and robo-taxis really be available in a year?

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It doesn't matter what anyone thinks about it, but whether there is actual evidence at a level that would stand up in a court of law if someone sued the company for misleading the public.

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If this is true it would be a major ridicule.

I sincerely hope not. Elon doesn't strike me as the cheating type but the innovative, though I think he needs to be more honest in the ideas he presents to the public. I'd be sorely disappointed in him were this true. He's been an inspiration for me as an aspiring entrepreneur.

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If that is true then tesla did cheat on his presentation. but i still think the idea is great. I hope Elon will be able to make the self driving possible especially to trucks.

I don't even know what to think anymore.

People should not have been treated like this, after hearing the truth, people may be against the whole project.

It's so unfortunate that even Tesla operates as scam.

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I think Elon tends to exaggerate a lot. Full self-driving is going to be far off in the future and I don't expect it to work unless most cars are on that grid either. It won't be available in a year.

I guess fake it till you make it - big time.

I don't really trust Elon musk and I wouldn't be surprised if he behaves true to type.

Für mich ist das ein betrügerisches Handeln. Warum wird nicht offen kommuniziert, was der Roboter alleine kann und was nicht? Die Videos gehen um die Welt und bei 90% der Leute bleibt hängen "Wow der Optimus kann sich schon unterhalten und Bier ausschenken." Das bleibt hängen. Und das ist genauso gewollt. Und das ist Fake.

Tesla is really creating a very massive wave