Hive: A Compounding Machine

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For those who understand how Hive truly works, it is magical. People are being exposed to opportunities that few ever come across. We see the foundation being established where massive amounts of wealth are going generated.

The best part is everyone is free to join in.

Hive is a very simple system. Certainly there are a lot of moving parts and a great deal to learn. Anyone who is new can get overwhelmed very easily. However, the financial aspect to the ecosystem is rather basic.

Essentially, everything that is done on Hive is part of a process that can build more value. This means actions taken have an impact both personally and collectively. Since tokenization rewards activity, this forms the basis of all that follows.

In the end, Hive becomes a compounding machine. This means that anyone who couples rewards from activities with time will see growth. Put massive effort in over a long period of time and large numbers will result.

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Hive Power

The foundation of Hive is Hive Power (HP). This serves a few purposes:

  • provides the ability to engage on-chain
  • earns a 2.85% annual return to partially adjust for inflation
  • can be used to curate content, generating curation rewards
  • individuals can delegate other accounts, often for payouts in other tokens

As we can see there are a number of reasons to accumulate Hive Power. A number of years ago, the only way to accumulate was in HIVE and HBD. Today, there are more than 100 projects, most of which offer some type of token reward.

With so many other options available, many overlook the value that Hive Power offers. The price is volatile like most tokens yet does carry some upside. Since this also provides governance capabilities, it is beneficial to grow one's account. If, over the long term, one is optimistic about what is being developed here, having HP puts one in position to benefit from expected price appreciation. This means the speculative component can offer another layer of windfall in addition to the returns mentioned above.

Of course, as the HP in one's account goes up, so do the rest of the numbers. One can earn more in curation. The inflation adjustment also becomes a bigger (raw) number, in HIVE, as the account grows. Finally, there is more HP to delegate, if desired, to earn other tokens.

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HBD Savings

The Hive Backed Dollars (HBD) is Hive's "stablecoin". It is a token that is meant to peg at $1 worth of HIVE. While it does float a bit, it is much less volatile as compared to most other tokens. This provides a degree of safety since, even if the price does stray, it is usually only temporary. Give it a bit of time and it moves back towards the peg.

Having a low-risk option is vital. Not everyone wants to be speculating all the time. There are time where even traders are looking for a risk-off move.

HBD is unique in that it is one of the few tokens that can offer a fixed return at the base layer. There are no third party applications to trust. One still owns his or her keys.

Placing HBD in savings is entering the fixed income market. Here is where a rate of return is set. With the HBD savings program, it is 12%. That is a very strong return for a low-risk holding with no counter party.

Each HBD that is placed into savings will earn .12 HBD. Of course, leave this and it compounds over time as the interest paid earns interest.

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Layer 2

We could write a series of posts about the second layer options. However, this is ultimately where Hive is going to excel. Most of the development occurs on the second layer since the design of Hive is to keep the base layer as streamlined as possible.

For those who are familiar with the ecosystem, here is where we see dividend tokens, tribes, games, NFTs, and an assortment of other options. Naturally, there is risk involved since not all projects will succeed. However, for those who can astutely navigate these waters, there are a lot of opportunities.

To start, one can enhance the rewards earned by focusing upon some of the tribes. Many have their own token and people can get those in addition to HP/HBD payouts. This can enhance the return.

Also, by staking the tribe tokens, much of the same process as HP applies. Once can earn curation rewards or delegate for other forms of payouts. Here we can see how there is more return generated, often through the same activity.

There are also a host of other tokens available that pay "dividends". This can be in the form of another token or more of that one. Some of these are INDEX, LBI, SPI, DHEDGE, and BRO. Having these in one's wallet means other tokens keep showing up on a daily or weekly basis.

Of course, the gaming arena opens up a different set of opportunities. This is led by Splinterlands, bringing NFTs to the forefront. Again, we could delve into this topic through a series of articles. The key point is that more options are available, often providing another level of compounding.

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Exponential Growth

Where will the Hive ecosystem be in 5 years in terms of value?

By this, we are not referring specifically to the price of HIVE. Instead, what will the entire value be of all these different projects. Not long ago, we looked at the idea of A Trillion Dollars On Hive. Whether that is ever reached or not depends upon, in great part, to how much we get compounding.

For example, Splinterlands has a few hundred million dollar in value with cards, land, and an assortment of tokens. Could that project compound at 25% each of the next 5 years? That seems very likely. If we presume a $200 million dollar figure now, at that rate, it would be over $600 million in 5 years. This is probably a rather conservative forecast based upon the way the game progressed over the last few years.

We often fall victim to looking at things solely in terms of USD (or some other fiat). This only provides one side of the equation. Since markets can be volatile, the number can be misleading.

One of the keys is to focus upon the number of units of a particular token. Here is a layer of compounding that often gets overlooked. As time passes, more tokens usually are distributed. The inflation is beneficial to encourage new users to participate. As projects grow, their token price ultimately will move up. However, markets can be fickle. Therefore, those who concentrate on growing their holdings regardless of market conditions will find their position is further enhanced when the bull does return.

All of this can lead to exponential growth. This is something most usually only experience when it comes to their credit card balances. Compounding at 18% or so a year means that $5,000 debt can get rather large over 5 or 7 years. Hive is giving people an opportunity to get on the other side of the equation. Compound your wealth instead of debt.

The ecosystem saw great evolution over the past few years. As the tentacles keep reaching further out, there are more opportunities for each of us. We are to the point where the choices exceed the resources that most have available. In fact, it can get a bit overwhelming. We can be like the kid in a candy store, wanting everything we see.

Of course, discretion is warranted. We have to select where we place our time and finances. Nevertheless, knowing that each can work to compound our holdings is vital.

There are numerous examples of people on Hive who experienced what is being described here. They showed up each day and took action. Each year, their accounts grow at a rate far exceeding the traditional system. The consistent action pays off as more resources are available for new projects. This can provide an additional windfall.

It is a very simply process to understand. Yet, judging from the actions of most, it is extremely difficult to implement. Most are looking for instant success.

Hive is a compounding machine. That means the numbers will be much bigger down the road. The crucial element is time. This can not be circumvented.

It is also the component most ignore. This is where the benefits are missed.


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Like Einstein said, compounding is the 8th Worldwonder, and this in every field.

Hive is a perfect example for this.

If I held the earnings, I would be self-sufficient by 2025, if they only compound from Hive and curation alone.

Thank you for the post.

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If I held the earnings, I would be self-sufficient by 2025, if they only compound from Hive and curation alone.

That is key. It all can happen over time. The only question is how long. That will vary for each of us. However, when one understands the concept, it is rather easy to plot out.

Keep building and filling the bags however one can. That is the essence of what is taking place on Hive (actually all of crypto).

Then let time work to your advantage. It is magical.

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I know this, I know this, I know this. Sometimes life gets in the way. So then what?

Don't quit.

Suck back, reload. Start the up road again.

Rebuilding starts now.

I am excited.

Life can get in the way but we must work to overcome that. It is hard at times because time gets squeezed.

Yet from the long term perspective, it is vital.

This is also where the passive nature of things can help offset when time is scarce.

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This was an amazing read, really insightful. Loved it 🥃♥️

So earning and getting rich over time on Hive is a must.... alright noted!! Let me go and sound the alarm 🚨

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It will be an inevitable outcome for those who are active and staking. This will lead to one's bags to continually grow. Over time, the compounding effect cannot help but to take hold.

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Ty for a view of the potential. !pizza

It's exactly what I tell people around me about my activity online... that took me long to actually being able to say that I monetized it, but once the price appreciates and you stick with what you do, it's impossible not to make your efforts worth. According to hivestats it seems I have earned 24,000 HP since I created my account, that's well over $24,000 in four years... Try that with facebook...

I've been an active user of facebook for eleven years and it hasn't earned me one dollar in all that time. Now, I'm not the best example when it comes to compounding, I'm a bit impatient, but I can clearly understand what you're pointing at.

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According to hivestats it seems I have earned 24,000 HP since I created my account, that's well over $24,000 in four years...

And that is at today's prices. What happens when HIVE hits $5 which I believe it will? That will put your $24K at $120K...not bad for 4 years work. Of course, $10 HIVE gets it really insane.

Plus them we can add in your LEO and other rewards. What does that amount to? You could see a duplicate situation with LEO for example.

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It's true! Even plunking away and doing what i feel is only a limited amount, the rewards are so plentyful! It's a bit mind boggling tbh esp when most ppl are so fearful of this emerging paradigm and encouraging conventional investments as safe and the best options. It's very exciting to be on the forefront of what's becoming!! Bring it. :)

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That is true. An increase in activity allows us to expand our rewards. There certainly is a correlation.

People need to decide where the future is and how they are going to direct their time and resources.

For many they still hold onto the old system which might work for them if they have a nice sum of money and access to the right investments. This is not most. Thus an alternative it required.

My view is a couple of hard core years spent on Hive and then one can look back and see how life changing money will come about.

That is my plan anyway.

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Compounding is the best thing. There's power in compounding. You can compound your token you are getting in Hive small small but once you leave it upto one year. You will see the reality in compounding.

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That is true.

HBD is something that compounds even faster when put into savings. It is great that we have so many opportunities.

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Yes thank you

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Having been a user, one starts to earn compunding/multiple revenues on HIVE indeed. However, this needs patience.

The proverbial "multiple streams of income".

That is what is presented on Hive.

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hive is really an amazing place we have play to earn games + blogging and 2layer solution as well above all we have a great community

A lot of different options, all that can grow people's holdings.

Over time, as the network effect kicks off, this could be very valuable.

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agree we have a lot going on its big opportunity for us

An opportunity that is open to all.

Come one, come all.

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you sound like a seller at a yard sale

but a lot are joining hive every day

I agree, HIVE is the perfect compounding machine that many haven't discovered. This fact is putting us on a perfect situation in the near future.

When it gets discovered, it will set off another compounding factor: the Network Effect.

And that is when things will get really wild, at least in terms of USD.

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Love your vision

Thanks. It is something I acquired simply being here for a long time, taking action, and watching the results play out.

It is hard to miss when not only do I get these results but so many around me.

No matter what level one is at, the impact can be the same. In fact, the smaller accounts can realize a greater percentage gain due to the fact they raw improvements end up in larger growth rates.

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Posts like this are a great reminder of being patient and working consistently.

So far 90% of my adventures on crypto were failures and this is really demotivating. I really needed some positive thinking right now. Thank you

I hope you are right and I'm self sufficient thanks to hive in few years

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Hive is a rather simple system (although the features and functions can be overwhelming).

Basically, get involved, engage, and get rewarded. Take those rewards and stake them to set the compounding in motion. Load up on those projects you like and think will do well.

And stay consistent.

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Thanks for replying!

I will do that. I think this is one of the few examples where tunnel vision can help XD

Given the patience and tenacity those first few $ are very important because they end up getting compounded the most. The odd thing I see is this seems even more powerful than normal compounding because in addition to the typical $ compounding it happens to your account power to some extent as well. I look for ward to watching my meager account grow, though patience is hard!

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Bullish longterm, patient for results short and midterm, and constant efforts will lead to succes in almost any endeavor, let alone in such environment.

As the old saying goes, hope for the best, prepare for the worst and keep moving.

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Stay consistent and keep engaging. That is the secret to Hive, at least from what I can see.

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Compounding looks good when you are the one getting all the drops everyday.
Hive is the perfect exercise in that matter.
Sky is the limit here.
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There are so many different ways people are getting rewarded. Adding in the layer 2 means people are being rewarded with a lot of tokens. Look at some of the numbers people are getting from the SPS airdrop and staking. Those who were active are getting hundreds per day.

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Superb round up of Hive and its offerings! A good reminder for some of us and great info for newbies to whet the appetite as to what's taking place…

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It is good for newbies to know what is taking place. It is also vital they realize they are a part of it. This is a cooperative. We all have a part to play.

Get rewarded and start staking. That gives each person a piece of the pie. From there it grows.

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I'd like to say, "You have very well described/summarized the entire HIVE echosystem as compounding machine and otherwise".

IMHO, this post will also open the new doors to the echosystem and angles to think for the newcomers.

Hopefully a lot of the newer people see the potential and come in with the mindset of building over time. It doesn't happen instantly. Yet too many want the instant rewards.

For those who understand how compounding works, I think they will latch onto the possibilities. It is really amazing what is taking place.

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I couldn't agree more. I have started to save HBD one or two week back, not much 1 or something HBD, but I have decided to continue doing so and hopefully this will turn out some good pay back with time.

The pay is easy to figure out. 12% return is not likely to go down ( I have a feeling it will be moved up after the next hard fork).

Simply extrapolate the 12% return out over 5 years and you will see what you are getting. Of course, adding to it will only ensure the numbers keep growing.

The basic essence of compounding.

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I am not dealing with the banks for last 11 years but, if I remember correctly, they were offering 4% (by the government banks) and 7%-8% (by the private banks) APR and there were minimum required amount as well.

Simply extrapolate the 12% return out over 5 years and you will see what you are getting. Of course, adding to it will only ensure the numbers keep growing.

So, I agree with you this is a piggy bank and could turn out into something good with continuous savings however smaller they are. If one cannot save big amounts then they can save small amounts that will not add or substract anything meaningful from their day to day expenses and if anyone wants to save a big amount to earn more than reasonable amount then, IMHO, this is way better than the banks.

I cant speak for everywhere but in the US banks are paying under 1% in most instances. Even the 10Y Treasury is only at around 2%.

The key to the savings is to get started and keep adding. No matter what is being put in, it will add up over time (there is that word again). As we allow time to compound our holdings, plus adding to them, we see the numbers get bigger.

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It really is overwhelming. I see people making such massive progress and being in the right place at the right time benefitting massively from opportunities. And the learning curve is quite steep to even be in those places at the right time. Seeing things like @steemmatt's $23,000 airdrop sends my mind reeling. Ultimately I guess it's good that I read this right after because it's true that if you do what you can do with gusto and regularity, your efforts will compound over time.

Those opportunities are out there, albeit not common. Yet it does require one to be involved.

What we can guarantee is that, on Hive, activity over time is rewarded. This is true regardless of where one opts to focus. From that point on, things start to happen.

I didnt mention airdrops in the post but that is a good point. We see a lot of them based upon our holdings in other tokens. It is something that can enhance our returns.

It is happening all over the place. The only requirement is to be involved.

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The only requirement is to be involved.

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You are a testament to what happens when you walk away for a while. Not rubbing it in but it is a situation we see repeatedly. Every market pullback results in a reduction of activity.

That is the opposite of what people should do. Alas, that is why those who remain, regardless of market price, tend to see their holdings grow.

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As sad as the monetary growth I missed out on is, the saddest part is all the catching up I have to do in regards to all the activity, growth that has happened, projects, etc. It's sad that I wasn't in on all that.

We cant live looking in the rearview mirror. Instead we just have to keep our eyes forward.

You can start from the point you are at now. A year from today, you can either be 365 days further along in your Hive journey (and thus your wallet) or you can spend it elsewhere.

The choice is yours.

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I've had more success in growing my account in 2nd layers tokens than in Hive (obviously keeping all my Hive Power)
Another method of compounding that I'm using is delegating and providing liquidity to the diesel pools.
With the rewards, I can compound again to the pools, balance my portfolio or aping into new projects.

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There are many ways to go about it. That is what is great about what is developing here. We have many layers that can attract people.

As long as you keep compounding things, that is the path forward.

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I will soon complete 1 year on Hive and I can vouch for it. It offers a range of opportunities that is getting wider each passing day. Not just your bag but you grow as a creator and as a person. Love it!

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Without a doubt we are seeing expansion in a lot of ways. This is how we are going to see overall growth.

The fact that we are evolving shows that more people can benefit from what is being created here.

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I remember the days where a trillion dollars in the total crypto market cap seemed so far away. Look where we are now.

Kinda feels cool to be starting off at a few hundred million market cap on Hive now, almost feels nostalgic.

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Without a doubt. It will not be too long before we see a $10 trillion market cap for crypto. It will grow exponentially.

As more people flock in, we are going to see massive valuations as network effects take off.

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It's really exciting to see posts like this where someone who is clearly quite knowledgeable about a lot of things being so bullish on Hive. I think a lot of us that are here are bullish on it because we have been so invested in it, but it is cool to have that feeling reinforced. If that makes sense.

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It does to a degree. Most look to the market for validation in their decisions, starting to question things when markets pullback. That is a bad move in my opinion.

Turning to people who see to be doing things is always a good way to appraise things. Are they still here, consistently doing what they did?

At the end of the day, we have to look at this from our own perspective and delve into what it provides us. However, if one's bags are growing on a weekly or monthly basis, I would think that will remove any doubts.

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Yeah, prices go up and down all the time, so I don't really look at the markets to determine what I am going to do. To a certain extent anyway. If BTC is dumping, you know that everything else is probably going to tank a bit too, so that might mean you make some moves. I would never just cut and run though. I was here posting every day during the crypto winter, no point in stopping now!

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Watching price as an entry/exit point is smart. However, using it for validation is fatal. The only time I care about price is if I am buying or selling something. Outside of that, it is just an exercise like looking up the score in a football game. Really means very little.

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Yeah, great point.

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I'm starting to increase the compounding effect in my account. I'm still new here but I want to maximize the way I earned on the platform. I started with Pizza and Luv tokens to reward others and myself. The key for me is to put the most monetary value possible into the time I spend doing things here, things that I would do anyway. Great info, thanks for sharing.
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There are a lot of options. We are also seeing a great deal of opportunities opening up. This all adds to what people can focus upon.

With so many options, find what works for you and keep adding. Over time things will grow a great deal.

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Yes it is a cooperative. We see the ability to help others as well as oneself. Each time we hit the upvote button, we are rewarding the author equal to ourselves. That is an amazing thing when you think about it.

Over time, this will expand the overall wealth on the system. That is huge. The question is how many will be involved to benefit.

Hopefully more people realize the potential and keep growing their bags.

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There are just way too many opportunities here on Hive and I love all the compounding you can do. Generate income through curation, content creation and even hive engine tokens. It all adds up and most of the time, the extra rewards you get offset any losses you do get. At the same time, the long term prospects of the chain are fairly high so we can just build now because prices will recover.

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It all just keeps building. The benefit is that, during market pullbacks, we can keep adding through out activity. Thus, the market action doesnt really matter (unless looking to buy or sell something).

Over time, we can grow our holdings by a decent percentage, bringing up even more rewards. It all is a fabulous system when we break it down.

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and lets not forget Airdrops too!

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That is true and another layer that we benefit from.

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That is the secret to compounding: time.

Look at the picture of Warren Buffett. He did not get the big numbers overnight. What he did get was a growing stake with each passing decade. String a few of them together and his holdings grew into tens of billions.

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Something Hivestats has let me see is how little curation rewards I've made over the last year, and is only just now starting to gain traction.

Creating content and receiving rewards to stake towards curation feels like adding kindling to a small fire. Once it gets warm enough it becomes unstoppable.

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The power of compounding is usually not seen in the initial stages but in the long run. $1 looks small but consistently earning $1 for one year equals $365. It's a matter of being consistent in your activities and then watch your earnings compound.

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Without a doubt. The power of compounding follows exponential curves. When you look at them, it is evident that the early days do not garner a great deal of impact. However, over time, it does grow, with the effects becoming evident.

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Which is why we should not despise the days of our little beginnings. Great things start small.

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Yes we can only start where we are. Each of us had a small account to start. The key is to not let that deter you.

I am looking forward to your post about the progress you are making at taking your account up by an order of multitude.

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About that, I prefer making the progress posts in the beginning of every new month. I think then with these intervals, the progress will be clear and tangible.

Or do you think differently? Any suggestions?

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Hive is giving people an opportunity to get on the other side of the equation. Compound your wealth instead of debt.

That nailed it!

There are numerous examples of people on Hive who experienced what is being described here. They showed up each day and took action. Each year, their accounts grow at a rate far exceeding the traditional system. The consistent action pays off as more resources are available for new projects. This can provide an additional windfall.

So true!

It is a very simply process to understand. Yet, judging from the actions of most, it is extremely difficult to implement. Most are looking for instant success.

This is why I try to stress to people that dedication and consistency matter the most because given those things success gradually occurs.

Awesome article for new users and older ones. Thanks for the good read.

Awesome article for new users and older ones. Thanks for the good read.

Glad you found it useful. This is something that is becoming evident to me. As time passes, we see so much more being created. It all adds to what was already present.

With this, we are going to see massive opportunity for people.

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There are many benefits that come with hive power and its indeed a compounding machine. There are various ways to earn with HP. It pays 2.85$ apr and on top of that curation, APR is a bonus. Its like the more I hold, I get greedy even more.

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Time is your friend in compounding as 5 years is nothing as the doubling up affect starts to playout soon afterwards. 10 years or longer is a must if you can keep it in that long as that is serious revenue being generated compared to the earlier years.

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There is no doubt that the longer one goes, the greater the effect of compounding. It is something that few hang in there with. Instead they want it all now and give up.

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When your HIVE is compounding, it's a win/win.

Not only are you compounding the number of HIVE tokens in your account.

But you're also opening yourself up to the possibility of the price of each token appreciating.

Something that a lot of us who have been here for a while see as an inevitability (touch wood lol).

When you add the ability to move some of those compounded profits between HIVE and the stable HBD while STILL compounding your balance at 12%, the power you have is unreal.

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Hives unique for sure always has been and compounding is escalated once you understand it all.
Being active and curating content while HODL hive as powered up is going to make you that 2.8% + your curation rewards which is 7%+ in most cases. That's over 9% each year so that 100,000 hive powered up is earning you 9,000 hive (of course you have to factor in the compounding of the compounded lol but that's above my pay grade)

That stablecoin still needs to be more stable for the amount of funds and time being put into the thing. $0.95 to $1.05 which we recently saw is a huge 10% gap thats far too high IMO but hopefully we get there soon. It's been like a year though it feels. However 12% is still nice to be earning on it for only locking it up for 3 days and doing nothing. You really can't go wrong with that when it comes to the "passive" income nature of things.

Non-the-less HUGE potential here at Hive compared to other places.

My guess is that we do not see a drop below 12% and I have a feeling that, after the next hard fork, we see the payout increased. I would not be surprised to see it jump to 15%. Just a top of my head speculation but I sense that is what we will see.

Non-the-less HUGE potential here at Hive compared to other places.

The fact that it is duplicated to a great degree at the second layer is also a way to enhance the return. The compounding starts to compound.

And we didnt even delve into the network effect that can take place.

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